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What makes a good CMD Co-ordinator and PM - Urgent!
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Good morning to you all, and a happy Friday!
I've been asked to sit in interviews for appointment for a CDM Co-ordinator and a Project Manager, we are the client, for a project starting in March. My GM will be hosting the interviews, but in the absence of our safety advisor who is more conversant with CDM than I am.
My question to those who are more familiar with CDM than me, is what makes a good Co-ordinator and what makes a good PM? Are there any specific questions I should ask? I do remember long ago that PM shouls be registered with ASP, is this still applicable?
Any help before 11.30, would be great!
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Hi,
I feel it very important that a CDMC has a construction background as their opinions/judgement will be based on experience and intimate knowledge of the deign & build process that can be invaluable when putting forward H&S solutions to designers & architects. CDM isn't purely about construction as it covers welfare & processes, i.e. notification, that don't necessarily need that kind of background experience. An impartial eye, i.e. someone without the construction background, may also pick up on what is less obvious.
The Association of Project Safety (APS) [formally Association of Planning Supervisors also APS] is a subscription organisation and provides the lead for Construction Safety that keeps a register of CDMC's & Construction Safety Practitioners (CSP). Entry criteria (now) is based on a mix of design, construction & safety training & experience. This would be a benchmark qualification to ensure you have the right person for the job. The entry for the former Association of Planning Supervisors was less stringent as it is for the re-morphed APS.
Hope this helps & good luck!
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Set your question as a presentation to be delivered by prospective candidates? These are the people you'll want to deliver competency - start that delivery at the interview!
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NeilBoorman
I feel a trifle uneasy at your statement that the APS provides the lead for construction safety. That is how they might like to see themselves but the reality is nowehre neaar this. They are what they are a subscription grooup for individuals and organisations providing CDMC services whatever other coat they try to claim.
Bob
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Bob,
What's the difference between APS, IOSH, IIRSM, CIEH, etc etc etc?
The way I see it is they are all the same. You have to reach the criteria they set to meet a certain level of membership. This does not necessarily mean that someone is any better or worse outside of that membership. APS is an organisation that unless it generalises rather than solely concentrating on cdm duties will never expand to the size of the likes of IOSH, RICS etc. What would be your suggestion for the likes of safetygirl in her search for a CDM-C? I find your posting very negative towards Neil's posting and yet you have not come up with a useful solution to the original question.
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Too late for Safety girl's interviews but here goes anyway.
This is a difficult question to answer as it depends on so many people's different opinions.
A good CDM-C should ask the right questions at the right time to ensure all duty holders have and are continuing to contribute their required information so that the project can go ahead safely and in accordance with CDM Regs. There is more but enough for now.
A good PM is one that can get the work done on time according to the set programme, at the right level of quality and also ensure everyone has a safe workplace.
I disagree about having a construction background, I don't but have learnt construction safety over the past ten years or so.
I even pulled up a CDM-C the other day - newly appointed and replacing a previous CDM-C on the project, he did not realise the F10 should now be amended to include his name as CDM-C on the document.
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Brett
The HSE view was and as far as I know still is that there should be no profession called CDMC, or PS as was. APS was formed to serve a narrow sector interest and I see no reason to develop a separate H&S professional body that will merely serve badly the profession as a whole.
YES APS is the place to look at the CDMC role but that is only because IOSH absented itself from doing so as the role is much more than just H&S. I personally do not see how anyone without experience in the construction sector in some professional capacity should ever serve in this role. There are CDMC consultancies who do just this and have APS membership
Bob
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I suppose I'm a bit misguided here as I didn't really consider myself having a construction background but know quite a bit about CDM and have done the CDM-C role myself.
I now think I should consider my past 12 years or so as a health and safety professional in the construction sector as a construction background.
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