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Bongo  
#1 Posted : 22 February 2011 09:33:17(UTC)
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Bongo

Morning all

We are at present suffering with the quality of 7lb hammers (BS876), in particular the head. Our suppliers inform us that we are the only company experiencing this problem which we find hard to believe and Wonder if anyone could help me by replying to the questions below.

1. Has anyone else experienced problems with them?
2. If so how did you come to a solution?
3. do you know of a UK manufacture of had tools, (mainly 7lb hammers
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 22 February 2011 10:21:02(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

There are three common failure modes:

First, breaking off large chunks of the head
Second the head coming away from the shaft
Third, the head being damaged so that it splays out at the edges and needs to be ground back

Not all of these are a manufacturing problem - sometimes they are a maintenance problem. Could you be more specific?
Bongo  
#3 Posted : 22 February 2011 12:11:47(UTC)
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Bongo

Sorry should have been more specific, lumps coming off the hammer head.
walker  
#4 Posted : 22 February 2011 12:20:22(UTC)
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walker

We are talking sledge hammer here
In common with all hand tools in the UK, price is the overiding factor.
If lumps are comming off the head then the steel is not forged correctly
This has been the case for about ten years - that why if you buy a hammer there is a warning label to tell you to wear safety glasses

Read the warning label as saying "This is a poorly manufactured hammer".

Liker everything else you get what you pay for, but a decent one will set you back maybe 5 times the price of "run of the mill stuff"


walker  
#5 Posted : 22 February 2011 12:30:26(UTC)
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walker

With regards to British Standards
I've served on numerous committees writing BS, so I have some background knowledge.

BS is not a sign of excellence but the minimum acceptable standard that the relevant industry (users & suppliers) is prepared to accept.

Many imported articles declaring compliance with BS (& other standards) are fraudulent.
Bongo  
#6 Posted : 22 February 2011 12:34:42(UTC)
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Bongo

quote=walker]We are talking sledge hammer here
In common with all hand tools in the UK, price is the overiding factor.
If lumps are comming off the head then the steel is not forged correctly
This has been the case for about ten years - that why if you buy a hammer there is a warning label to tell you to wear safety glasses

Read the warning label as saying "This is a poorly manufactured hammer".

Liker everything else you get what you pay for, but a decent one will set you back maybe 5 times the price of "run of the mill stuff"

Thank you for your reply, price will not be a problem if I can get a hammer that is fit for purpose. Everyone tells me that hammers are imported and that there are no UK manufactures of hammers, any suggestions?
Bongo  
#7 Posted : 22 February 2011 12:36:01(UTC)
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Bongo

Thank you for your reply, price will not be a problem if I can get a hammer that is fit for purpose. Everyone tells me that hammers are imported and that there are no UK manufactures of hammers, any suggestions?
walker  
#8 Posted : 22 February 2011 13:08:18(UTC)
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walker

I've not got a clue if these are any good but goggle Sheffield footprint.
It says they are made in the UK

I guess you would have to buy via a supplier but at least if it was not up to scratch you have a manufacturer to complain to.
Jane Blunt  
#9 Posted : 22 February 2011 13:18:11(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

While it could be a forging problem, it could equally well be a heat treatment problem. I have come across cases where the hammer has not been tempered, leaving the head surface to be very hard, but too brittle.

The British Standard does put limits on the hardness.
walker  
#10 Posted : 22 February 2011 13:28:23(UTC)
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walker

Jane Blunt wrote:
While it could be a forging problem, it could equally well be a heat treatment problem. I have come across cases where the hammer has not been tempered, leaving the head surface to be very hard, but too brittle.

The British Standard does put limits on the hardness.


For simplicity when I said forging I was including heat treatment which as you say determines hardness /brittleness. For hammers its a bit of a goldilocks effect.
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