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Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#1 Posted : 25 February 2011 11:58:11(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

I'm currently working my way through and updating our CoSHH files. I have a list of risk and safety phrases from the HSE's web site but on one of the newer SDS's I see there's new phrases of: A1 Pressurised container do not expose to sunlight etc. A2 Do not spray on a naked flame etc. The question is has any one come across these new phrases, how many more of them are there and finally where can I access the additional phrases from? Thanks in advance. Badger
bob youel  
#2 Posted : 25 February 2011 12:21:46(UTC)
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bob youel

REACH, CHIP and EN / UN safety signs etc are changing - in some cases have changed - so your new system needs to reflect this and R & S phrases have changed somewhat as I think, for example, that the word 'Hazard' has replaced the word 'Safety' I would read and investigate up as I am not fullly up to date myself
chris.packham  
#3 Posted : 25 February 2011 12:25:19(UTC)
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chris.packham

Badger 1. Check out the new Classification Labelling and Packaging Regulation, as over time this will result in the phrases arising out of the Approved List disappearing and being replaced by new ones. Risk phrases are being replaced by Hazard statements, etc. etc. Also new symbols are appearing. 2. Caution - for COSHH risk assessment you cannot rely solely on risk phrases for your risk assessments. There are literally thousands of chemicals that have never been allocated risk phrases that can cause damage to health, particularly where skin exposure occurs. At the meeting on a programme for global reduction in occupational skin disease at the World Health Organisation in Geneva this week it was decided that even water (dihydrogen monoxide) is dermatologically to be considered an irritant. Chris
chris.packham  
#4 Posted : 25 February 2011 12:26:21(UTC)
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chris.packham

I forgot to mention, you can download the CLP Regulation free of charge from the Internet - all 1355 pages of it!!! Chris
Kate  
#5 Posted : 25 February 2011 12:31:43(UTC)
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Kate

http://www.hse.gov.uk/ghs/eureg.htm Notice that the hazard classifications (harmful etc) have changed as well as the risk and safety phrases (now called hazard and precautionary phrases). Most things read across fairly simply from the old to the new systems with just a change of wording but you may find a few exceptions.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#6 Posted : 25 February 2011 13:53:11(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Thanks for the link Kate but still no A1 A2 etc 'Hazard Phrases' but for those interested I did come across the following courtesy of the Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/GHS_hazard_statements: European Union The European Union has implemented the GHS through the CLP Regulation. Nevertheless, the older system based on the Dangerous Substances Directive will continue to be used in parallel until 2016. Some R-phrases which do not have simple equivalents under the GHS have been retained under the CLP Regulation:[5] the numbering mirrors the number of the previous R-phrase. Physical properties • EUH001: Explosive when dry • EUH006: Explosive with or without contact with air • EUH014: Reacts violently with water • EUH018: In use may form flammable/explosive vapour-air mixture • EUH019: May form explosive peroxides • EUH044: Risk of explosion if heated under confinement Health properties • EUH029: Contact with water liberates toxic gas • EUH031: Contact with acids liberates toxic gas • EUH032: Contact with acids liberates very toxic gas • EUH066: Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking • EUH070: Toxic by eye contact • EUH071: Corrosive to the respiratory tract Environmental properties • EUH059: Hazardous to the ozone layer Other EU hazard statements Some other hazard statements intended for use in very specific circumstances have also been retained under the CLP Regulation.[6] Note that, in this case, the numbering of the EU specific hazard statements can coincide with GHS hazard statements if the "EU" prefix is not included. • EUH201: Contains lead. Should not be used on surfaces liable to be chewed or sucked by children. o EUH201A: Warning! Contains lead. • EUH202: Cyanoacrylate. Danger. Bonds skin and eyes in seconds. Keep out of the reach of children. • EUH203: Contains chromium(VI). May produce an allergic reaction. • EUH204: Contains isocyanates. May produce an allergic reaction. • EUH205: Contains epoxy constituents. May produce an allergic reaction. • EUH206: Warning! Do not use together with other products. May release dangerous gases (chlorine). • EUH207: Warning! Contains cadmium. Dangerous fumes are formed during use. See information supplied by the manufacturer. Comply with the safety instructions. • EUH208: Contains <name of sensitising substance>. May produce an allergic reaction. • EUH209: Can become highly flammable in use. o EUH209A: Can become flammable in use. • EUH210: Safety data sheet available on request. • EUH401: To avoid risks to human health and the environment, comply with the instructions for use. Obviously its American biased but as I understand it the GHS is bias around ANSI (American) system so we can expect to see more of the same. My apols to the mods in advance if I've tripped over copy rights ... again but forum members do need a heads up on some things. Badger
Jane Blunt  
#7 Posted : 25 February 2011 14:20:08(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

I think you are OK on copyright Badger, as Wikipedia is 'creative commons'. Your question has me completely foxed. The new GHS system has its precautionary phrases PXXX One of the ones you quote will be P211, as on this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/...precautionary_statements I cannot find any explanation of 'A' phrases anywhere, but a Google search shows that they are being used on a fairly widespread basis. I wondered whether the A stood for aerosol, but this has not yielded any results. Sorry, cannot help!
jay  
#8 Posted : 25 February 2011 14:31:50(UTC)
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jay

It is not accurate to state that the GHS system is based predominantly around the US ANSI system. On the contrary, the concept of hazard statements and precautionary statements is predominantly European that has been retained! The text of the statements has been changed to cater to a global audience/usage where some words could have conveyed a totally different meanings in some parts of the world. It was way back in 1992 during the Rio Earth Summit that identified the harmonisation of classification and labelling systems for chemicals as one of its action programmes , the aim of this work was to bring together the major (existing) national/international classification and labelling systems. The implementation plan, adopted in 2002 Johannesburg World Summit encouraged early implementation, having the system operational by 2008 The system has been developed in co-operation between international organisations. Experts from different countries have co-ordinated to create the GHS A number of key principles were agreed at a very early stage, including a key commitment that: "the level of protection offered to workers, consumers, the general public and the environment should not be reduced as a result of harmonizing the classification and labelling systems" The UN GHS is not a formal treaty, but instead is a non-legally binding international agreement. Therefore countries (or trading blocks) must create local or national legislation to implement the GHS. The GHS permits a “building block” approach allowing jurisdictions to pick up only those elements of the system that are wanted. GHS was agreed by the UN Committee of Experts on the Dangerous Goods Transport and the Globally Harmonized System in Dec 2002 and formally adopted by UN ECOSOC in July 2003 (The Purple book) and revised in 2005, 2007 and 2009. There is continual development/refinement of the UN GHS in biennial work programmes This means that EU is free to determine (within the guidelines set out in the GHS) which of the GHS building blocks will be applied in the different parts of the existing classification and labelling system.. the EU has adopted most, but not all, of the GHS hazard classes and categories! It has additional ones too (Ozone depletion hazard) For more details regarding GHS refer to:- http://www.unece.org/tra...i/ghs/ghs_welcome_e.html http://www.unece.org/tra...ubli/ghs/histback_e.html For more details of CLP, refer to the ECHA Guidance, much more easy to understand than the text of the regulations http://guidance.echa.eur.../clp_introductory_en.pdf There is a useful FAQ's on CLP at:- http://echa.europa.eu/cl....asp?fuseaction=home.faq I'd depend more upon the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) website than Wikipedia
jay  
#9 Posted : 25 February 2011 14:42:36(UTC)
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jay

Unfortunately, our neither has our Health & Safety Executive nor has the European Chemicals Agency compiled the basic information regarding the following in a user friendly format:- 1) Classification, i.e Hazard Class & Category & Abbreviation 2) Labelling, i.e Pictogram (symbol) & Signal Word & 3) Hazard Statements 4) Precautionary Statements On the contrary, the Republic of Ireland's HSA has published A1 poster sized and A4 print/on screen reading sized PDF's on its website ! Links below:- CLP Poster - A1 size (for high resolution for professional printing – Classification and Labelling Elements http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Pu...LP_Poster_1_A1_size_.pdf A4 size - suitable for easy on-screen reading and office printouts – Classification and Labelling Elements http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Pu...LP_Poster_1_A4_size_.pdf CLP Poster 2 -A1 size (for high resolution for professional printing –– Hazard and Precautionary Statements http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Pu...Poster%202%20revised.pdf A4 size (suitable for easy on-screen reading and office printouts) ) – Hazard and Precautionary Statements http://www.hsa.ie/eng/Pu...ster%202%20A4%20size.pdf
Jane Blunt  
#10 Posted : 25 February 2011 14:52:38(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

Those charts look really useful Jay. I take your point about Wikipedia - not the most reliable of sources, but nevertheless often quite useful.
Jane Blunt  
#11 Posted : 25 February 2011 14:53:11(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

It doesn't get us any nearer to understanding where A1, A2 etc came from!
jay  
#12 Posted : 25 February 2011 16:41:20(UTC)
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jay

It appears that the aerosol specific safety phrases arise from the EC directive on Aerosol Dispensors:- Refer to Annnexe at:- http://eur-lex.europa.eu...975L0324:20030605:EN:PDF
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#13 Posted : 28 February 2011 10:06:45(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Jay Thanks for the links on post#9 you're a marvel, I've since made use of them and printed them off. Had a scan through your post #12 and agree that there may be something to come but does not provide a list of 'A' hazard phrases unless anyone knows different. As athought could it be a manufacturer jumping the gun and applying their own codes? Badger
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