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Slater24187  
#1 Posted : 28 February 2011 10:57:25(UTC)
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Slater24187

Hi all, Im trying to establish the procedures to be followed in the event of a large ammonia release that could effect surrounding resedential areas. We use large amounts of ammonia in the snow making within our indoor ski centre. I have a written procedure to deal with evacuation of guests, employees, contractors etc but not fully sure what would be required in the event of a catastrophic release. In the UK I would imagine that the local fire brigade would be responsible for treating a large scale amonia release alongside any specialist services. Can anybody guide me as to the procedures that would be followed and how the situation would be controlled in terms of evacuating residential areas. Any help appreciated. Paul
chas  
#2 Posted : 28 February 2011 11:14:31(UTC)
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chas

The HPA Compendium of Chemical Hazards may provide you with enough information to enable you to put together suitable procedures. See link below or download from their website. http://www.hpa.org.uk/To...ChemicalHazards/Ammonia/
teh_boy  
#3 Posted : 28 February 2011 11:25:13(UTC)
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teh_boy

Not enough to fall into COMAH? ...that would make life more fun! It may be worth using the COMAH guidance though to derive a plan, also contact your county emergency planning unit. http://www.google.co.uk/...gency+planning&meta= They will assist with off site plan if needed, or at least put you in touch with COMAH site so you can go and see how they do it! I went to a few control centres and watched some live play mock incidents in the north east, all good learning! good luck
Taylor  
#4 Posted : 28 February 2011 11:33:49(UTC)
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Taylor

Hi Paul - I have worked on a COMAH regulated chemical plant for many years. We also handled quite a lot of ammonia. As teh boy says looking at some of the COMAH guidance may be of some help - one of the documents I would start with is HSG 191 - Emergency Planning for Major Accidents - free to download from the HSE web site. Whilst COMAH may not apply directly to your situation - there may be some useful pointers in here. If you want to pm me I'll share some of the specific things we had in place to manage releases that might impact local communities. Cheers
bob youel  
#5 Posted : 28 February 2011 11:59:33(UTC)
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bob youel

Also talk to your local authorities Civil Resilience [the old title= emergency planning] team
bleve  
#6 Posted : 28 February 2011 12:19:40(UTC)
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bleve

I would suggest you carry out a consequence assessment in order to identify the extent of impact from each credible release scenarios. Only then can you formulate a response plan. Your assessment should identify the distance to the appropriate toxic endpoints taking into account the normal and worst case weather conditions (Pasquill Gifford Stability Class D5 and F 1.5 for the UK) this would differ for the Middle East though. Could probably give you a ball park idea of extent if I had more information.
imwaldra  
#7 Posted : 28 February 2011 14:30:41(UTC)
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imwaldra

Are you in Dubai? - I ask because I've seen a TV programme about construction of the indoor ski centre there and believe its in a fairly built-up area. In UK storage of bulk liquid ammonia would probably not be permitted in such an area, so some of the advice above may not help much. From my general experience many years ago with the largest UK producer of liquid ammonia, if there is a large spill the following are general precautions: - Stay indoors, with doors & windows sealed (and a/c off - which will be a problem for you if you need to communicate quickly with neighbours to ensure they do that?) - If in a cloud, move at right angles to the wind direction to get out of it. - To minimise pool evaporation, set up water sprays around the pool as ammonia is readily absorbed. DON'T spray water onto the pool as that increases the evaporation rate. - If you think a large spill is a real possibility, you may need to think about ways to isolate inventory - for example with remotely operated valves. - Of course all this should have been considered during the design phase. It would be surprising if a reputable designer and/or ammonia supplier hadn't thought about this at all. Have you checked the designers risk register to see what they considered?
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