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#1 Posted : 31 January 2002 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colan Ash At my Hospital, we provide accomadation for staff, some of which is rented, some provided free as part of job. What are the legal obligations on the Trust in terms of inspecting/testing their personal electrical equipment. I know HSE guidance for hotels says this is not required for guests, but would this apply to this employee accomadation?
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#2 Posted : 31 January 2002 12:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lance Morgan Colan Essentially they are tennants and the hospital is the landlord. Any electrical equipment provided by you for their use should also be tested and maintained by you. regards Lance
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#3 Posted : 31 January 2002 12:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lance Morgan As an addendum Although you say hotels are not required to perform PAT I think they would be taking quite a risk if they did not do so. Most reputable hotels do perform this testing on TV's, Kettles etc that they provide in their rooms. Regards Lance
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#4 Posted : 31 January 2002 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colan Ash Thanks Lance, but my question was actually to do with the residents own electrical equipment that they bring in for their use (e.g. CD/radios, TV's etc). Any items the Trust provide (either in bedrooms or common areas) would be treated and tested as work equipment.
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#5 Posted : 31 January 2002 13:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roger Smith Strictly speaking, legislation requires you to provide safe and well maintained electrical equipment rather than to perform regular PAT tests. However, unless you actually perform the tests from time to time,then it is impossible to verify that your supply and maintenance procedures are actually working. You are correct that most Hotels will have tested the kettle, radio and TV etc that they supply in rooms. They will not have tested the equipment supplied by their guests. You should test periodically all of the equipment supplied by you for the use of the occupant. However, the Occupants own electrical equipment may be faulty or draw too much current for the circuits. At best this may result in blown fuses, more seriously, it could mean electrocution and fires. To reduce the risk of this, you could do one or more of the following.... 1 Inspect and test your staff's personal electrical equipment before permitting its use. 2 Fit all sockets in the room with Residual Current Devices. 3 Fit non standard sockets in the room to prevent additional equipment being used. 4 Ban the use of all (or certain types of) personal electrical equipment. What is reasonable will depend a lot upon the number of rooms, the sort of problems that you are already experiencing and the result of your risk assessments. Roger Smith
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#6 Posted : 31 January 2002 13:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Thomas Colan Slightly different tack here but you may find that certain nurses accomodation comes under 'Houses in Multi-Occupancy' (HMO) legislation, which is/was/maybe still is enforced by the Local Authority - not HSE. The Environmental Health Dept of your LA will no doubt have wads of information and standards for your reference. Regards Rob
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#7 Posted : 01 February 2002 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen Gallagher Colan, We have much the same problem re our residential homes and are considering training & supplying local managers with the PAC 500 SP. By having test equipment available locally any 'personal' electrical equipment brought brought 'on-site' can then be tested at the earliest opportunity and entered on to the 'PAT register' (no... its not an Irish census form !!!!!) Stevie
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#8 Posted : 02 February 2002 10:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter J Harvey Not a bad idea, but a nightmare to police what comes onto site and goes into the staff's own rooms. I have seen RCD power points provided in multi occupancy accommodation by the MOD. This actually does the job for you and eliminates the risk from the residents own equipment. Overwise you end up with people tripping the power back on at the mains fuse box, especially during the night with all those kettles, TV's and music systems. If the accommodation is old also make sure the cable is sufficiently rated.
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