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canned heat  
#1 Posted : 08 March 2010 11:26:20(UTC)
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canned heat

Was wondering if anybody could help. We are a building maintenance & heating company which do boiler and central heating installations. At present we strive to always help our engineers when it comes to lifting/moving boilers and radiators. However, there are times when a boiler will need to be installed into a small space such as an airing cupboard and it is not possible to get 2 men into that space to assist with the lifting. I was wondering if anybody knows of any mechanical aids that may help, or has any advice on what they do. The engineers have sack trucks on their vans to enable the boiler/radiators to be taken from their vans into properties, so they do not have to manually lift them. All engineers receive manual handling training, however these is not sufficient alone as alot of these boilers are above somebody's indiviual safe lifting capacity. Any help/advice would be appreciated
KieranD  
#2 Posted : 08 March 2010 20:04:27(UTC)
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In response to your statement: 'All engineers receive manual handling training, however these is not sufficient alone as alot of these boilers are above somebody's indiviual safe lifting capacity.' the options available to you now are: 1A. research relevant ergonomic research on limits of safe handling, in relation to the loads and other relevant variables and prepare a pocketbook for onsite reference by each engineer; 1B. commission a professional safety ergonomist to provide the research in the format of relevant drawings and tables 2. support this with relevant equipment necessary to avoid undue hazards to engineers
canned heat  
#3 Posted : 09 March 2010 09:08:51(UTC)
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canned heat

KieranD Thanks for your reply. I will definately be looking at your suggestion 1A with regard to looking at a pocketbook. your quote: '2. support this with relevant equipment necessary to avoid undue hazards to engineers', As you can appreciate I am looking for equipment that would do this and this is really why i am posting. Although your comments are helpful I am trying to find others who may know of equipment which would reduce or if possible eliminate the hazards to engineers.
lewes  
#4 Posted : 09 March 2010 17:39:07(UTC)
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lewes

I was involved in a M&E company a few years back and we had the same problem. We did consider http://www.genielift.com/ml-series/ml-1-5.asp but it was very dependent on ideal site conditions (good access, getting lift equipment into situ and having the space where the legs can locate under the boiler location). Sadly in the end we had to make sure they were doing the lift in stages and had suitable handling aids including suitable gloves. It maybe that you could utilise a folding workbench so you would lift from floor to bench and then bench to location. Thus minimising twisting whilst lifting.
KieranD  
#5 Posted : 10 March 2010 09:10:16(UTC)
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The starting point of ergonomics is allocating tasks between equipment and people. When I worked in the HVAC sector, the variety of sites meant that it is was not possible to standardise this allocation. The ergonomic method of resolving the problems was to educate (not simply 'train') engineers to improve basis mechanical principles so they could resolve 98.5% of problems. For the remainder, the management choice was to decline the contract or to increase costs by sending a professional safety ergonomist to the site to design a solution to control the risks, with the client's agreement. There is plenty of ergonomic literature available indicating how to both allocate tasks between equipment and engineers and how to source relevant equipment and tools. You can find out about them at one of the trade shows on industrial engineering and ergonomics, once you know what to look for.
ahoskins  
#6 Posted : 10 March 2010 10:41:31(UTC)
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ahoskins

How about lifting it onto a trolley/stand (using two people) and then pushing this into the small space?
rdavidc  
#7 Posted : 06 November 2020 17:05:41(UTC)
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rdavidc

Hi, having recently joined a Housing Association who are planning a programme of boiler replacements I'm very interested in the same query and looking for a solution  It occurred to me to ask if the load (boiler) could be broken down into smaller components and reassembled without invalidating any warantee? Just thinking aloud. Perhaps a gas technician would know?

Edited by user 06 November 2020 17:06:47(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling and grammar

John D C  
#8 Posted : 06 November 2020 18:52:55(UTC)
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John D C

Have you considered a sack truck with hoist such as https://www.parrs.co.uk/1020mm-manual-lifter-sack-truck-cap-100kg-p3906/s23852 Used this type of equipment in the past for moving heavy computer tills for pubs. Young lady doing the job could move four at a time from her estate car to the bars with minimal effort. I am sure there are other suppliers.

Take care

JohnC

Edited by user 06 November 2020 18:57:15(UTC)  | Reason: link not working

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 06 November 2020 21:21:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The device will have undergone quality control checks "as built". If you dismantle and rebuild will you be able to remotely replicate such testing ? If this were anything other than gas safety......
Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 06 November 2020 21:21:53(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The device will have undergone quality control checks "as built". If you dismantle and rebuild will you be able to remotely replicate such testing ? If this were anything other than gas safety......
HSSnail  
#11 Posted : 09 November 2020 11:42:05(UTC)
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HSSnail

I have also seen equipment similar to Jonnc suggests, but you have to be careful as these "stacking trucks" as i have seen them called can be very heavey in them selves so you have to consider how you get them in and out of a vehicle, up stairs etc. Dont want to add additional manual handling hazards.

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