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drbill  
#1 Posted : 17 May 2010 11:53:25(UTC)
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drbill

I'd be grateful for your help.
I'm researching the principle of "reasonably practicability" specifically as it applies in prosecutions of poll and gas companies. My preliminary thesis is that what is deemed "reasonably practicable" by the courts may NOT be reasonably practical in terms of doing it at the worksite. Can someone point me to legal cases (criminal not civil) in the oil and gas sector?
Many thanks, Bill
RayRapp  
#2 Posted : 17 May 2010 12:12:47(UTC)
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RayRapp

Bill

The concept of 'reasonably practical' is enshrined in well establsihed case law (Edwards v National Coal Board 1949) and the only defence, until recently that is, is articulated in HSWA, which is the foreseeability test. In other words, the concept of reasonably practicable is not industry specific, rather industry wide. Therefore not sure how you can apply it to to oil and gas sector or why it might be deemed NOT reasonably practical at the worksite - it is for the court to determine what is reasonably practicable or not.

Ray
Phil John  
#3 Posted : 17 May 2010 12:17:58(UTC)
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Phil John

Beat me to the Case Law Ray

Edwards v. National Coal Board (1949)

“Reasonably Practicable”

You need to be sure of the exact meaning of this phrase and to be able to distinguish it from other similar phrases which are quite different in interpretation. It appears early on in the HSWA in Section 2(1).

“It shall be the duty of every employer to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all his employees.”

Although a very important phrase in HSWA, the Act itself does not contain a definition of the expression. To find its precise meaning you have to refer to case law. In Edwards v. National Coal Board (1949), a miner was killed when a section of the road on which he was travelling subsided. The section of the road concerned had no timber supports, although other sections were properly supported. The Coal Board stated that the cost of supporting all roads was prohibitive in relation to the risk. Lord Asquith, the judge in the case, said that a balance had to be struck in deciding whether it would have been reasonably practicable to have taken the precaution of providing supports for the section of road which collapsed. The balance was struck by weighing the quantum of risk involved (the danger of collapse and loss of life) against the quantum of sacrifice involved (the cost, time and trouble). If there was a gross disproportion between the two and the risk was insignificant to the cost, there would be no requirement to take the additional precautions. However, in this particular case, the risk was not an insignificant one, and the costs of making safe should have been applied.

Therefore, to carry out a duty “so far as is reasonably practicable” means that the degree of risk has to be balanced against the time, trouble and cost involved in taking the measures necessary to avoid the risk.

If the measures are so disproportionate to the risk involved that it would be unreasonable to take the measures, then there can be no obligation to take them. The greater the risk the more likely it is that it would be reasonable to go to the expense of taking the measures. In a nutshell, if the consequences and the degree of risk are small and the cost of the measures to reduce the risk is very expensive, it would be unreasonable to incur that cost. The size of the company or its financial resources are not a consideration in arriving at a decision.
drbill  
#4 Posted : 17 May 2010 12:22:00(UTC)
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drbill

Thanks Ray,
What the court has to decide is what is "reasonably practicable", not "reasonably practical". For example, a court may decide that it is reasonably practicable to weld (or fix in some other way) all ladders to bunk beds so they can't move and therefore people won't fall. However, to do this would make life impractical - uncomfortable and inconvenient for the two people sharing the cabin.
So I'm trying to see if what the courts say is indeed helpful or unhelpful as far as protecting people.
Bill
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 17 May 2010 12:22:33(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

It may be prudent not to lose sight of the whole term "so far as is reasonably practicable".
Whilst some may see that as pedantry, I believe that the term is very specific (and was intended to be so) as it enables a wider and more objective consideration of 'doing enough' as opposed to doing ALL that is reasonably practicable.
m  
#6 Posted : 17 May 2010 12:27:50(UTC)
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m

In addition to what has been said above you need to remember that you may need to prove in court that what you did was reasonably practicable. The reverse burnen of proof applies to the HSWA but it is on 'the balalnce of probabilities' civil measure rather than the 'beyond reasonable doubt' criminal measure
chris.packham  
#7 Posted : 17 May 2010 13:05:27(UTC)
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chris.packham

At the risk of being considered pedantic, keep in mind that for chemical exposure reasonably practicable only applies to prevention not control.

Regulation 7(1) of COSHH states: Every employer shall ensure that the exposure of his employees to a substance hazardous to health is either prevented or, where this is not reasonably practicable, adequately controlled.

Unfortunately, COSHH does not then state explicitly what is meant by 'adequately controlled', at least, not for skin exposure!

Chris
Phil John  
#8 Posted : 17 May 2010 13:17:50(UTC)
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Phil John

I know that the EU do not like 'Reasonable Practicable' and would like to see it altered or dropped!


Reasonable Practicability Off the Menu

The topic of what “reasonably practicable” means in terms of health and safety law is a perennial chestnut. A certain category of employer has always objected to the way in which the courts interpret reasonable practicability, and it has even been challenged in the European courts.

The Health and Safety Offences Bill is winding its way through the parliamentary process, and together with the introduction of the offence of corporate manslaughter, the stimulus was provided for a committee of MPs to claim in April 2008 that the requirement on UK employers to ensure the safety and health of workers "so far as is reasonably practicable" introduces "…a lack of clarity that can increase the burden on employers in meeting their health and safety obligations".

In July 2008, the Government responded by categorically ruling out a review of 'reasonable practicability' and how it applies to health and safety law.
KD  
#9 Posted : 17 May 2010 14:11:57(UTC)
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kd

Bill,

There are two views to consider when examining the term “reasonably practicable”. The first is the employer view ad the second is the court view.

When planning work, you include adequate controls to prevent injury (or harm to health etc.) from identified risks. This involves considering how harm might materialise, and establishing controls to prevent that harm. In accepting that each control has a cost associated, the greater and more complex the number of controls established, the higher the cost. There comes a point when the advantage gained from the extra cost does not translate into a perceived reduction in risk that is significant enough to justify the cost of the control. At that point, you have done what is “reasonably practicable”.

The work is undertaken, there are no injuries, and all is well in the world. However, if there is an incident, most particularly a fatality, it is difficult to establish that the additional cost involved in preventing a fatality could not be justified, given the benefit of hindsight that the courts have. The courts will generally consider the outcome, i.e. there was a fatality, and not the risk exposure and level of risk control established, when determining whether or not the duty in “reasonably practicable” was discharged. There is an abundance of case law on this. The one above pre-dates HASWA by a number years, but (I think) is still the yardstick.

There are a few exceptions to the above. The one that come most immediately to mind is risk associated with asbestos. Courts will generally consider the exposure potential, i.e. risk, from a lack of control more than the actual outcome.

Ken
jay  
#10 Posted : 17 May 2010 15:13:02(UTC)
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jay

The courts judgement regarding reasonably practicable is nased on what an employer would do, given the circumstances and NOT the defendents particular financial or any other resource situation.

Also, when it comes to safety case regimes that the high hazard industry operates under, the regulators have indeed provided much more clarification in its ALARP suite of guidance.

Principles and guidelines to assist HSE in its judgements that duty-holders have reduced risk as low as reasonably practicable

Assessing compliance with the law in individual cases and the use of good practice

Policy and guidance on reducing risks as low as reasonably practicable in design

HSE principles for Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) in support of ALARP decisions

Cost Benefit Analysis (CBA) Checklist

ALARP "at a glance"


Please refer to:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/risk/expert.htm


Obviously this is the regulatoors guidance, but the courts are likely to be guided by case law and the above.
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