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spud  
#1 Posted : 25 October 2010 12:03:18(UTC)
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spud

Hi All,

Someone has just mentioned Radon gas to me and it isnt something i have had much knowledge of in the past, with this in mind could anyone tell me of what an employer should do regarding this gas, testing etc or where the best place to find the info is.

Any information is helpful.

Alan
Jane Blunt  
#2 Posted : 25 October 2010 12:09:28(UTC)
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Jane Blunt

The HSE has a page on this:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/radiation/ionising/radon.htm

The Health Protection Agency also has web pages that are useful:

http://www.hpa.org.uk/To...ngRadiationTopics/Radon/

Jim Tassell  
#3 Posted : 25 October 2010 12:38:42(UTC)
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Jim Tassell

Completely agree with Jane above. Just an additional thought though, you're branch is listed as Trent Valley - watch out for some unlikely radon hot spots in places like Leicestershire and South Derbyshire. HPA (the NRPB as was, of blessed memory) have downloadable maps.

Jim
descarte8  
#4 Posted : 25 October 2010 15:44:41(UTC)
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descarte8

Ironically last week was radon awareness week, the link below has a Massive amount of information, though catered towards the US is still very useful

http://radonweek.wordpress.com/
Invictus  
#5 Posted : 26 October 2010 10:53:32(UTC)
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Invictus

spud wrote:
Hi All,

Someone has just mentioned Radon gas to me and it isnt something i have had much knowledge of in the past, with this in mind could anyone tell me of what an employer should do regarding this gas, testing etc or where the best place to find the info is.

Any information is helpful.

Alan


Go on the environment agency website and under Radon out in your post code and they will tell you if your High, medium or low for the gas
johnmurray  
#6 Posted : 26 October 2010 14:57:38(UTC)
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johnmurray

http://www.bre.co.uk/radon/protect.html

http://www.radon.co.uk/PDFs/DEFRA.pdf

A previous employer went the testing route for radon.
Then I pointed-out that the company was quite happy to grind thoriated electrodes without dust extraction.....
multuminparvo  
#7 Posted : 27 October 2010 12:07:23(UTC)
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multuminparvo

Spud
Naturally occuring Radioactive Gas common here in Rutland.
Subject to the Ionising Radiation Regs the HSE have been keen to have workplaces including schools assessed against the current 400Bq benchmark. Some of our schools and offices exceeded this and corrective measures have been taken. HSE recognise that deaths at work due or likely to be due to RADON do occur.
Just to add to the fun the HPA have suggested lower threshold limits and if the HSE revise their figures accordingly even more premises will fall into the action area.

Their surveys started in Cornwall and are picking their way around the Country I believe based upon the HPA data already refered to.
Barrie(Badger)Etter  
#8 Posted : 28 October 2010 08:53:52(UTC)
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Barrie(Badger)Etter

Quote=spud]Hi All,

Someone has just mentioned Radon gas to me and it isn't something I have had much knowledge of in the past, with this in mind could anyone tell me of what an employer should do regarding this gas, testing etc or where the best place to find the info is.

Any information is helpful.

Alan



Alan,
Below are some notes I made at a districts meeting Oct 2009, hope they are of use to you.


Radon was also highlighted at the meeting as an issue to the general workforce especially in the midlands as indicated in attached map.

Radon - England and Wales
This map (go to web site) is taken from the Indicative Atlas of Radon in England and Wales (HPA-RPD-033).
The estimated radon potential for an individual home can be obtained through a website, www.UKradon.org [outside link].
Radon is a natural occurring radioactive gas. You cannot see, hear, feel or taste it. It comes from the minute amounts of uranium that occur naturally in all rocks and soils. Radon is present in all parts of the UK, although the gas disperses outdoors so levels are generally very low. We all breathe it in throughout our lives - for most UK residents, radon accounts for half of their total annual radiation dosage. However, geological conditions in certain areas can lead to higher than average levels. This can be found where natural ground levels have been noticeably altered as per the rear car park. Some of the highest radon levels have been found in the southwest, but levels well above average have been found in some other parts of the UK. Exposure to particularly high levels of radon may increase the risk of developing lung cancer.
The HPA has advised that indoor radon above an Action Level of 200 Becquerel’s per cubic metre should be reduced. Most homes in the UK have fairly low radon levels, with an average of about 20 Becquerel’s per cubic metre. The HPA conducts radon surveys for government departments, local councils, other organizations, and private householders.
Small radon detectors can be sent directly to householders/ companies by post, and returned at the end of a three month period. Radon causes invisible damage to the plastic inside the detector. This damage can be measured and used to calculate the radon level. The householder is sent the result by letter.
The HPA has advised that indoor radon above an Action Level of 200 Becquerel's per cubic metre should be reduced. Most homes in the UK have fairly low radon levels, with an average of about 20 Becquerel’s per cubic metre. The HPA conducts radon surveys for government departments, local councils, manufacturing organizations, and private householders.
Small radon detectors can be sent directly to householders by post, and returned at the end of a three month period. Radon causes invisible damage to the plastic inside the detector. This damage can be measured and used to calculate the radon level. The householder is sent the result by letter.
The only reliable guide to the level of radon in a building is a measurement over a period long enough to average out short-term variations in radon levels - this should ideally be three months. The procedure recommended by the HPA is to use passive monitors as they are reliable, simple to use and can be sent by post. The individual result for each site is confidential and will not be given to anyone else without the prior consent of the site holder at the time of the measurement. This service is available to any site holder in the UK. This includes the supply of two radon detectors, their subsequent analysis and the reporting of the result. All packaging and return postage are also included.
A radon detector with improved performance has been introduced by the HPA, replacing the previous yellow detector. The replacement monitor is black because the outer shell is made of carbon-loaded plastic which reduces uncertainties caused by the build-up of electrostatic charge. The detector increases the efficiency and reliability of the measurement service.
Radon screening
There may sometimes be a need for rapid information about radon, for example to test the effect of mitigation work or when planning structural changes to a building. In such cases, screening tests can be helpful provided they are conducted in addition to the standard three-month test. This service provides an early indication of the likely result after only a couple of weeks. As with all short-term measurements, the result will be inconclusive in some cases. In such cases, the second set of detectors, returned after three months, will provide further information and a numerical value. The result is expressed in units that are directly comparable with the Action Level.

Result of screening measurement Conclusion, in relation to the Action Level Value provided
Less than 100 Bq m-3 Unlikely the AL is exceeded. Yes
Between 100 Bq m-3 and 400 Bq m-3 Uncertain, need longer test. No
More than 400 Bq m-3 Likely the AL is exceeded. Yes

A radon detector pack can be ordered from the www.UKradon.org website for approximately £65.00. The effect of ventilation, in principle, radon may be prevented from accumulating in premises with particularly high influx of fresh air, but a measurement is still required unless a risk assessment can show that the radon level at a particular location is necessarily low at all times when it is occupied. Furthermore there will often be adjoining or linked places, such as an office, store, computer area or access duct, with quite different conditions where a measurement would be required.


Badger
ahoskins  
#9 Posted : 28 October 2010 10:09:37(UTC)
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ahoskins

In addition to Barrie's very full explanation, I learned from a presentation a few months ago, that the levels of Radon vary can throughout the year and are usually higher during the winter months.

Although we are in a low risk area, we still intend to monitor over the next few months, just to prove that we are low risk, should anyone ask...

Alan
walker  
#10 Posted : 28 October 2010 11:58:07(UTC)
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walker

ahoskins wrote:

that the levels of Radon vary can throughout the year and are usually higher during the winter months.
Alan


I assume this is due to lower natural ventilation rates, because people keep doors & windows closed.

A bit off topic: I often wear a radiological film badge for work. When I used to live in a granite house, I had to be very careful to leave it in the car, as the house background would make it exceed my occupational limits!!
alexpaul  
#11 Posted : 09 May 2020 06:22:22(UTC)
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alexpaul

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Roundtuit  
#12 Posted : 09 May 2020 10:26:40(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Pity your first post has chosen to ignore forum rules linking as it does to a commercial web site
Roundtuit  
#13 Posted : 09 May 2020 10:26:40(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Pity your first post has chosen to ignore forum rules linking as it does to a commercial web site
peter gotch  
#14 Posted : 09 May 2020 10:43:18(UTC)
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peter gotch

Quite remarkable that a new poster just happened to find this thread nearly 10 years later.

Mark-W  
#15 Posted : 12 May 2020 07:52:32(UTC)
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Mark-W

Originally Posted by: peter gotch Go to Quoted Post

Quite remarkable that a new poster just happened to find this thread nearly 10 years later.

I know, we are so lucky like that. Not sure what we would of done otherwise

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