Is anyone willing to share a template or sample of designer's risk assessments? Or just point me in the right direction to an Internet site. The construction work is an apartment block with balconies and it is the actual designer's risk assessments i want not the construction work. Many Thanks

Designers risk assessments are still required by CDM. It is asments of any risks related to what the designer is designing. Also any risks that will be present in the premises once occupied. The CDM C hasissued his design risk register with requirements for all duty holders to provide their own assessments, as directed in the risk register. I think it is a good idea. I know what to do and how to do it, I just thought that byasking here somebody would have a template to share. Thanks for your guidance sp900308

Designers do not need to provide risk assessments or details of residual risks relating to common risks that competent contractors will be aware of. Designers do need to provide information about residual risks that relate to significant issues that competent contractors and others need to know so that they can work safely and without risk to health on a structure in future (Design risk management) Also please note that any designers accepting an appointment is required under CDM2007 regulations to be competent so surely your designers would have this template? There is no legal requirement on designers under CDM2007 to keep records of any process through which they achieved a safe design but of course it is useful to record why certain key decisions were made.

CDM has never required designers to produce a document that is a designer's risk assessment. They have been required to assess the risks (in order to reduce it if appropriate, or assess if they have reduced it), but not to produce designer risk assessments. We use a 'Record of CDM Review' form. It's mostly empty space (or 'free form entry', if you prefer that term). First block of the form is identifying stuff: project number / project name / review number / review date A block for general information with slots for: + Description of Project or Element: + Design Principles: + Key Construction, Operation, Maintenance and Decommissioning Activities: Then the main block is 'Hazard and Mitigating Action to be taken', each item written in needs to be categorised as whether it is a Construction, Operation, Maintenance, Decommissioning, or Environmental hazard, and the action required is categorized as ERIC (though as designers we generally don't ever C, but everyone knows ERIC so the form says ERIC), and there's a slot for dating when our action is complete. But apart from the space for COMDE, the space for ERIC, and the slot for a date, it's just an empty space. Final block is signatures. We have a project management procedure that requires the register that's assembled from the forms to be reviewed at least each time the project has a formal design review. The system is worked on paper or on computers, according to the Project Engineer's preference. Anything that's I of ERIC on the register is added to the project drawings. The Record of CDM Review register is generally not issued (but if someone wants it, we do issue it - but there's lots of irrelevance on it - why does someone need paper telling them that at some stage of the design there was a particular hazard but there isn't any more because we eliminated it so it doesn't exist).

Chris is that directed at me? para 114 - includes the words "which require risk assessment". If that is not a requirement for risk assessment what is? I am very familiar with the ACOP but some people on here think they know it all but they don't. As I always say "you don't know what you don't know". I only asked for a little help, I wish I hadn't bothered now :-(

OK Chris no worries, cheers, enjoy the weekend

We and I talk about "required to" or "not required to" on this forum. The CDM-C has provided a comprehensive risk assessment sheet with requirements for the Designer and PC. This includes requirements for risk assessments by the Designer. Do the CDM-Cs among us have a view on that as there is no requirement in the ACOP for CDM-C to do that?

And further, I would suggest looking at the 6th and 7th questions at http://www.hse.gov.uk/co...n/cdm/faq/designers.htm, which includes (inter alia): "If a designer is complying with regulation 11 of the CDM Regulations, then, as the design is worked through to completion, any hazards will be eliminated and residual risks (to those who may be affected by them) reduced, so far as is reasonably practicable. This is, in effect, the application of risk assessment to the design. There is no legal requirement for a risk assessment to be in writing or recorded, however, regulation 3(6)(a) of MHSWR does require the significant findings of the assessment to be recorded where an employer employs five or more people. In terms of design, the significant findings of the assessment will be the finished design, together with all relevant drawings and any accompanying notes." Noting especially "There is no legal requirement for a risk assessment to be in writing or recorded", and that the design deliverables (drawings, notes etc) are the recording of the risk assessment process. I find this to be the most common failing of CDM-Cs (which is not to say all, or even most, CDM-Cs are wrong, merely that the ones that are wrong are most commonly wrong on this point) - there is no requirement to deliver a designers risk assessment document. I've been in a meeting with the client and a CDM-C who stated that the only possible way for a designer to satisfy their duties under CDM was to provide a DRA to the CDM-C for the CDM-C to check. Really, what do you do when the supposed expert states that in a meeting to the client?