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Hi all, Does anyone know if BS EN ISO 12100 covers all the risks presented by the machinery directive in Annex 1? i.e. If your RA process is based on hazard ID using BS EN ISO 12100 you'll have met the EHSRs deemed applicable. Thus negating the need to purchase over 60 standards? Thanks in advance
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"Safety of machinery - General principles for design - Risk assessment and risk reduction (ISO 12100:2010)" These principles are based on knowledge and experience of the design, use, incidents, accidents and risks associated with machinery. Procedures are described for identifying hazards and estimating and evaluating risks during relevant phases of the machine life cycle, and for the elimination of hazards or sufficient risk reduction.
So for example with a brand new design where is the knowledge and experience? Given there are some 790+ harmonised standards cited in the Official Journal of the EU as being applicable under the Machinery Directive seriously doubt one single dcoument could be used as a sole reference http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/machinery/
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"Safety of machinery - General principles for design - Risk assessment and risk reduction (ISO 12100:2010)" These principles are based on knowledge and experience of the design, use, incidents, accidents and risks associated with machinery. Procedures are described for identifying hazards and estimating and evaluating risks during relevant phases of the machine life cycle, and for the elimination of hazards or sufficient risk reduction.
So for example with a brand new design where is the knowledge and experience? Given there are some 790+ harmonised standards cited in the Official Journal of the EU as being applicable under the Machinery Directive seriously doubt one single dcoument could be used as a sole reference http://ec.europa.eu/growth/single-market/european-standards/harmonised-standards/machinery/
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Thank you for that concise and helpful reply
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EN12100 is a Type A standard, applicable to all machinery. If you are looking for a particular class of machinery or safety device you eill need to look for the Type B1, B2 or C standard relevant to what you are looking for.
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ADALE,
There are two “routes” to compliance with the MD.
The “individual assessment route”;
Whereby you assess the equipment and address every individual EHSR and document how you feel that you comply, your “responsible person” who then signs the Declaration of Conformity has adequate confidence in his team to be sure that they have done their bit, and suitably addressed all the hazards to ensure that the equipment is safe and legal for placing on the market. Your technical file would then need to be able to illustrate that the equipment is safe and that you have addressed all the EHSR’s as well, or better than you would have by following the next route. In the event of the technical file being required, your solutions would be compared against the harmonised standards in place when the equipment was placed on the market.
The “presumption of conformity” route;
Whereby you follow first the C-Type for your equipment, then back this up with compliance with the normative B-Type standards whilst following the process of the A-type.
Within reason, you will then comply with the EHSR’s and you can complete your Declaration.
You will still need a technical file, but, it can be much reduced as you are following the c-type guidance.
It is more of a challenge when there is no C-Type, but there are people who can help you to interpret the requirements in a workable manner.
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Of course depending what our elected clowns and idiots in Westminster decide after October, who know if the Machinery Directive will still apply within the UK.
It will obviously still apply if exporting to the EU remaining 27 members.
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The great repeal bill has written all the EU Directives and Regulations as they currently stand in to UK law Only after we leave will our statutory instruments start to diverge from any changes introduced in Europe Once we leave use of the CE mark will cease as this is European copyright instead we will be adopting the UKCA - UK Conformity Assessment https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prepare-to-use-the-ukca-mark-after-brexit which in the first instance will continue to use European Standards as published.
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SJP on 29/05/2019(UTC), SJP on 29/05/2019(UTC)
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The great repeal bill has written all the EU Directives and Regulations as they currently stand in to UK law Only after we leave will our statutory instruments start to diverge from any changes introduced in Europe Once we leave use of the CE mark will cease as this is European copyright instead we will be adopting the UKCA - UK Conformity Assessment https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/prepare-to-use-the-ukca-mark-after-brexit which in the first instance will continue to use European Standards as published.
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2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
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SJP on 29/05/2019(UTC), SJP on 29/05/2019(UTC)
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CE marking won't cease in practice. It just won't have to be applied to products in the UK. In practice for companies that sell into Europe then the whole CE marking process & requirements will still be required. I guess there will be a requirement to stick another label/sign on equipment meant for the UK market place, to show the UK approval logo. What a load of nonsense it all is.
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