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Paul T75  
#1 Posted : 29 May 2019 10:33:18(UTC)
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Paul T75

I work for a national waste management company and we’re currently working towards the ISO45001 accreditation.  A suggestion has been made that we may want to look into the British Safety Council’s Five Star Occupational Health & Safety Audit as an alternative standard for our health & safety performance, but I wanted to find out how the two different systems compare.

My initial opinion would be that the ISO45001 seems to be a more universally accepted accreditation and would be more creditable to potential customers and stakeholders than the British Safety Council alternative.  Would this be the general consensus amongst others in this forum?

hilary  
#2 Posted : 29 May 2019 11:24:34(UTC)
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hilary

In my opinion they are different things.  The BSC 5 star system looks at compliance with Regulations.  ISO 45001 is a Management System approach. 

I think given the choice of just having the one, I would go for ISO 45001. 

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jwk on 29/05/2019(UTC)
Hsquared14  
#3 Posted : 29 May 2019 11:28:38(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Hi - until recently I was a 5 Star Auditor for BSC so I can give you all the gen on it.  I would say that it isn't a replacement for ISO 45001 (we used to do combined audits that looked at the 5 Star and ISO)  the 5 Star system is an audit and not a standard so it doesn't do the job of the standard but it is very searching and in some ways more so than the standard itself.  I would go so far as to say it is the best audit tool on the market (I've worked for and audited using a number of big name companies and audit systems).  For more information I think it would be better for us to corespond via PM.  

PS - I stopped auditing because I got a job within walking distance of home otherwise I would still be auditing!

UncleFester  
#4 Posted : 30 May 2019 11:52:37(UTC)
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UncleFester

Do you have customers asking for certification? If so, to what?

More importantly, what do you or your organisation want to achieve? I think systems like Five Star and GSSF complement ISO45001, but ISO45001 I dare say is more widely known.

hilary  
#5 Posted : 30 May 2019 12:20:42(UTC)
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hilary

Hsquared14

I agree, the BSC 5 Star audit is probably the best audit tool on the market - I scored 5 stars when I had it done, however, more people will ask for ISO 45001 so if the choice is either/or, I would still go for the ISO Cert.  If you can get both then do it because it will sort out your compliance before you build your management system around it.

Hsquared14  
#6 Posted : 31 May 2019 10:02:15(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Hilary is right - if you can afford both then go for it.  Don't know when Hilary had experience of 5 Star but it is no longer legislation based, it has moved on dramatically from about 2010 to now and it is possible to get a glowing ISO 45001 report but do dismally on 5 Star because it looks more at culture and control.  In fact so much so that on one memorable combined audit I ended up with a client that kept OHSAS but went down from 5 Stars to 2 because the system wasn't reflected in the culture and the actual management control.  The two things achieve different ends and in many cases these are complimentary and I recommend anyone interested in it to check out the information on how the 5 Star audit is structured on the BSC website.

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