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Does anybody have or know of any "Line of Fire" accident videos where someone other than main operative, or even just a passer-by, was involved?? I'm looking for actual events and not just talking head videos. A few of the people here have had difficulty transitioning to wearing safety glasses all the time - despite the fact we're pumping around caustics, or very hot oils, or using hydrogen peroxide, and have live steam on various systems. They simply cannot be trusted to wear glasses when they need to, so I believe a blanket requirement is necessary (we lost our last supplier of replacement eyeballs and can't find a new one...). I want to show them what could happen, as it will happen within a very manual workplace, before if necessary kicking disciplinary proceedings into action. Thanks
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if these are the sort of risks then surely goggles would be better than safety glasses?
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Assume you have considered process/work changes to the activity and/or equipment used to remove the need to use eye protection. Adopting the 'last resort' principle of PPE use.
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The site was built in 1970 and is very cramped at the best of times, we therefore have very limited potential for putting in many changes, let alone hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of automated packing stations & dosing systems - it would be nice, but it's not going to happen, therefore despite PPE being last resort it is a viable means of providing some protection to all and sundry. If they're not wearing light eye protection then the chances of them wearing goggles 100% of the time is approximately 0. They will wear goggles during the highest hazard processes (which is great and commendable) but to walk from one end of the factory to the other to get a cuppa?? Nope
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I had a similar problem in a previous job. If their attitude is they can't be bothered then I doubt that videos will work either. They are likely to have "it won't happen to me" mentality. The workforce only starmed wearing glasses after their was written warnings issued. Get your HR involved as well.
Mike
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Have you tried You Tube - there are loads of things on there that are safety related that you could pick up.
On a similar note I once went to a pipemaking factory (insurance surveyor) where I tried to convince the factory manager and company MD that a milling machine needed guarding to prevent swarf ejection and that eye protection could be used in the interim while that was done. They argued black was white with me along the lines of "it isn't spewing out swarf "- even though the floor was covered in it, "swarf isn't dangerous" - p-lease!! "guarding the machine would make it unsusable", "the swarf isn't at head level" - back in the meeting room I leaned over the table and ran my fingers through my hair - tinkle, tinkle, tinkle - guess what was stuck in my hair!! Not on CCTV sadly but an example of the arguments used by people who don't have the imagination to understand the "what if?" scenario. Could you introduce the idea to them by taking them through a "What if?" scenario?
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With AK - your risks are not for light safety glasses - a peroxide leak will run down the face and into the eyes
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With AK - your risks are not for light safety glasses - a peroxide leak will run down the face and into the eyes
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Have you considered bringing in a guest speaker to help get the message across? See http://kenwoodward.co.uk/kens-accident/ I think it helps get the message across better than a video when employees have a tangible reference to the "what if" and hearing first hand how it can impact on them. It's hard to ignore the risk when you have someone stood in front of you who has suffered as a result of an accident at work
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#4 comment. What sort of car does the MD drive?
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Better than yours - and changing that car for something less still won't pay for 4 automated packing stations, especially as we've lost a contract worth half the business. Thanks to grim72, Hsquared14 & mike52 for at least trying to answer the question. Everything else total waste of time as per standard IOSH c#@p
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#10 You must remind me not to answer any queries you post in the future.
I'm sure others will be unwilling to help as well. Ungrateful...t w.t
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Originally Posted by: Markiebaby  Better than yours - and changing that car for something less still won't pay for 4 automated packing stations, especially as we've lost a contract worth half the business. Thanks to grim72, Hsquared14 & mike52 for at least trying to answer the question. Everything else total waste of time as per standard IOSH c#@p
I lead such a sad life!!! took a look on You tube last night and I think you will find some good stuff on there, not sure exactly what you are looking for so haven't uplifted any links but there are CCTV videos and some really gorey US safety films
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Originally Posted by: Markiebaby Better than yours - and changing that car for something less still won't pay for 4 automated packing stations, especially as we've lost a contract worth half the business. Thanks to grim72, Hsquared14 & mike52 for at least trying to answer the question. Everything else total waste of time as per standard IOSH c#@p
And I bet your Dad can fight his Dad!
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