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KFisher  
#1 Posted : 11 November 2019 11:15:27(UTC)
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KFisher

Good morning all,

I am looking for so guidance please in relation UPS battery handle failures and wondered if anyone else has experience of a similar incident?

Recently one of our engineers was completing a battery replacement for a client and whilst lifting the batteries in to the UPS one of the handles failed resulting in the battery dropping to the floor and the handle striking the engineer on the chin.  Thankfully the injury was only minor.

The batteries in question were YUASA SWL3300 37.5 kgs.  

The room where the batteries were being stored was cold, warehouse conditions.  I wondering if this could manual handling issue i.e. if the engineer was to unconsciously favour one hand over the other causing more weight to be applied to one site of the battery handle, or if it could be a design issue?

Its worthy of note that the engineer is very experienced and has completed numerous battery replacements over the years with no previous issues.

Many thanks

Karoline

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 11 November 2019 11:45:49(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Why did the handle fail? How was it attached to the rest of the battery body? Was it the weld that failed, or some form of hinge etc? Why would it fail- was it corrosion or wear and tear? If the handle goes it is no longer a manual handling issue but a more basic equipment fit for purpose issue.

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 11 November 2019 12:07:35(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Why is one engineer lifting a 37.5Kg battery on their own?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 11 November 2019 12:07:35(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Why is one engineer lifting a 37.5Kg battery on their own?

KFisher  
#5 Posted : 11 November 2019 12:14:43(UTC)
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KFisher

Thanks for your reply.

The handles are made of plastic and attached to the top of the battery at either side.  It was the left handle which failed in the middle.  

After chatting with the manufacturer they have advised that they are not aware of any similar failures occuring, which drew me to the manual handling aspect.  Looks like I need to go back to the supplier.

Below is a link to the Techical Data Sheet for the battery in question.

https://www.yuasa.co.uk/swl3300-swl3300.html

KFisher  
#6 Posted : 11 November 2019 12:28:30(UTC)
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KFisher

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Why is one engineer lifting a 37.5Kg battery on their own?

We do send out two engineers for a battery replacement, however due to space constraints on  certain clients sites , the final positioning of the battery into the UPS is usually conducted by a single engineer.

Ian Bell2  
#7 Posted : 11 November 2019 12:32:00(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

The clue might be in the storage temperature of the battery and the plastic handle. Check the battery data sheet for the recommended storage temperature. You might have had a brittle failure of the handle if it has been stored at too low a temperature and then lifted. The material might have lost its ductility and hence the stresses imposed by lifing causing failure.

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paul.skyrme  
#8 Posted : 11 November 2019 17:10:38(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

I'll go with Ian Bell2, probably brittle fracture of the polymer material in the handle due to reduced ductility as a function of temperature.

Whilst when static the battery may operate down to extremely low temperatures, I suspect that like many polymer materials they should not be manipulated when the ambient temperture is tending to 0 Celcius.

Edited by user 11 November 2019 17:11:22(UTC)  | Reason: Typo

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KFisher on 12/11/2019(UTC)
achrn  
#9 Posted : 12 November 2019 11:02:35(UTC)
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achrn

Originally Posted by: paul.skyrme Go to Quoted Post

I'll go with Ian Bell2, probably brittle fracture of the polymer material in the handle due to reduced ductility as a function of temperature.

Whilst when static the battery may operate down to extremely low temperatures, I suspect that like many polymer materials they should not be manipulated when the ambient temperture is tending to 0 Celcius.

I doubt that.  The battery is rated for all use down to -15C and storage and discharge to -20C.  It seems to me very unlikely that the manufacturer would use a plastic that becomes dangerously brittle within the stated operating range of the battery - and at 'warehouse conditions' I'd exepct this battery was in the 10 to 15C range. 

Yuasa is a reputable manufacturer (though I've only dealt with smaller batteries from them) and if they had a range of batteries that were brittle below 0C I'm sure they'd do something about it. 

There are polymers with glass transition temperatures down at -100C and lower - there's nothing fundamental that makes a polymer brittle below 0C (and 0C is a special temperature only for water - why would a polymer care that it's at 273K rather than 274K?)

It's much more likely a one-off manufacturing fault or in-service damage, I think.  The handles on big batteries always seem quite flimsy to me (domestic car batteries likewise) - I tend to use the handles only to lift the edge to get my hands under the bottom, though that's not necesarily feasible slotting one into a UPS.

Ian Bell2  
#10 Posted : 12 November 2019 13:41:21(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Brittle failure was just something to think about as a possibility.

craigroberts76  
#11 Posted : 12 November 2019 14:23:39(UTC)
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craigroberts76

i'd start by looking at why are they being stored at that height anyway, if they are UPS units for a Server rack then they should be no more than 10U's high.

I wouldnt expect cold to affect the plastic and cause them to fail

I would ensure a min of 2 people move the UPS and that they are provided a toolbox talk on how to check it before they move it.

chris42  
#12 Posted : 12 November 2019 14:44:31(UTC)
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chris42

If you have access to the broken handle, you should look at the fracture point closely. Look to see if there is a manufacturing defect or nick in the plastic which could act as a stress raiser. If the break is in the middle of the handle then look at the top edge very very closely. Or if it broken elsewhere look for defects /nicks or sharp transitions (corners). Things generally become more malleable when heated and conversely less so when cold, so it could be a combination of things.

Bring into play your Sherlock Holms magnifying glass if necessary

 Chris

Roundtuit  
#13 Posted : 12 November 2019 15:37:09(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: craigroberts76 Go to Quoted Post
i'd start by looking at why are they being stored at that height anyway, if they are UPS units for a Server rack then they should be no more than 10U's high. 

Has something been deleted from this thread? I cannot see any mention of height.

Roundtuit  
#14 Posted : 12 November 2019 15:37:09(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: craigroberts76 Go to Quoted Post
i'd start by looking at why are they being stored at that height anyway, if they are UPS units for a Server rack then they should be no more than 10U's high. 

Has something been deleted from this thread? I cannot see any mention of height.

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