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Tony Woodside  
#1 Posted : 21 January 2020 08:53:25(UTC)
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Tony Woodside

Ok, your thoughts please! Should a commercial heating company be servicing high level assets off ladders? (Zargees)

grim72  
#2 Posted : 21 January 2020 09:04:34(UTC)
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grim72

On the face of it, probably not but I guess the answer may change depending on location/accessibility, duration of inspection/servicing and frequency. Ladders aren't banned forsesay and alternative methods (with enclosed working platform) would be preferable (for both safety and comfort) - but depending upon layout etc is not always possible. Whatever equipment hey are using to get to height should be well maintained too.

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CptBeaky on 21/01/2020(UTC), Kim Hedges on 21/01/2020(UTC)
peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 21 January 2020 10:29:16(UTC)
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peter gotch

Tony, if you are in Great Britain there is plenty of advice on the HSE website www.hse.gov.uk as to when the use of ladders may be appropriate, with a 30 minute maximum and other rules of thumb.

It's about deciding on the task, thence the risks and what measures are proportionate to mitigate same.

Lots of variables including height and what the engineers have to do and what they need to carry and manipulate whilst on any ladder.

CptBeaky  
#4 Posted : 21 January 2020 10:51:40(UTC)
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CptBeaky

My main concern with the use of ladders for this task are due to this being routine maintenance. you know this has to be done - routinely. Therefore, you must take steps to ensure that it is done in the safest way that is reasonably practicable.

This may still be with the use of ladders. The heaters may be in an awkward place that this is the only option. If this is the case, so be it. Obviosuly then you have ladder training in place, alongside inspections etc.

However, if there is a way to maintain these heaters that could be seen as reasonable, then that is how you should be doing it. Is it reasonable to hire a MEWP, for example, when the maintenance is due?

Kim Hedges  
#5 Posted : 21 January 2020 23:01:51(UTC)
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Kim Hedges

Just a small observation, the people going up the ladders, have they done the Ladders and Stairs course?  I did a harness course at the same time. 

I did mine less than 2 years ago as I often use ladders and stairs on building sites. 

Elfin Davy 09  
#6 Posted : 22 January 2020 10:20:10(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

The short answer is no...

The HSE blurb on ladders contains the following:  "The key message is that ladders should only be used for light, low risk work of short duration at lower levels".

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Tony Woodside on 23/01/2020(UTC)
peterL  
#7 Posted : 22 January 2020 11:11:45(UTC)
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peterL

Devil's Advocate, does the HSE provide definitions for light, low risk, low level work from ladders?

Elfin Davy 09  
#8 Posted : 22 January 2020 11:39:01(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

..does the HSE provide definitions for anything these days ?  Self-regulation is the key....until it goes wrong, then they tell you it shouldn't have been done that way.  :-(

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Tony Woodside on 23/01/2020(UTC)
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