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abes1988		#1 Posted : 28 February 2020 16:03:32(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Hi, We had a chap go direct to hospital from one of our sites. He is not a direct employees of ours. We were led to believe he was an employee of a team operating from our site. I made a courtesy call (today) to the injured person to get more information for investigation purposes etc. Afer speaking with him at length, I discovered he is a not a direct employee of the team, but his son is, and he sometimes lends a hand. Bit of casual unpaid work from time to time. Prior to the call, i have emailed the team manger to ensure he knows his obligations under RIDDOR. However, now this has come to light i would class the IP as a member of public, therefore as he left our site to go direct to hospital - it is now my responsibility to submit a RIDDOR. Would you agree? Just you are aware - the IP sustained two fractures. Any feedback would be much appreciated. The ten day window is coming to a close very shortly. Many Thanks J


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Zyggy		#2 Posted : 28 February 2020 19:36:16(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		I think that we need a little more information before we can give you advice. Reporting injuries to members of the public requires 3 ticks in the box; was it work related; were they taken directly to hospital & did they receive treatment. The IP was taken directly to hospital & given his injuries we have to assume that he received treatment, so the only question is whether it was work related. As you are aware, the specified injuries only relate to employee injuries & not for non-employees.

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abes1988		#3 Posted : 29 February 2020 09:11:44(UTC)
Rank: New forum user		Hi zyggy, Yes i can confirm it was a work process that resulted in the injury to the non-employee. Many thanks


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Dazzling Puddock		#4 Posted : 03 March 2020 09:56:38(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		The IP was on your site at the invitiation of the other company not yours, as far as you were aware he was an employee of theres and if, as it sounds to me that they were responsible for his conduct whilst on your site then they would be a defacto employee regardless of volunteer status. They are not members of the public. Personally, I would not be allowing non employees from another company to work on one of our sites without express permission and would be looking at our relationship with that other team. This could be being used to cover up a lack of employers liabilty insurance for that other team or to otherwise dodge legal responsibility.


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