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Guidance from the HSE on statutory testing for LOLER and Pressure systems - latest News
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A Kurdziel  
#1 Posted : 15 April 2020 15:21:51(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Just received this from the HSE- https://www.hse.gov.uk/news/work-equipment-coronavirus.htm?utm_source=govdelivery&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=coronavirus&utm_term=intro&utm_content=work-equipment-15-apr​​​​​​​

Basically they are saying we should maintain statutory testing under LOLER and the pressure systems regulations during the corona outbreak. They say that they will not be that worried if we miss any testing dates but they want evidence that we have considered the risk of doing that.
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Ian Bell2  
#2 Posted : 15 April 2020 16:48:43(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Usual over reaction by the HSE. A crane or pressure vessel if already well maintained isn't going to fail because an arbitary date has passed. Failure rates for pressure vessels are in the region of 2.5 x 10^-5 or less depending upon which data used.
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peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 15 April 2020 16:49:20(UTC)
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peter gotch

AK, given that there are so few front line HSE Inspectors and an ever incresing reluctance to investigate complaints, the only risk faced by those who forgo statutory inspections is really if there is a failure which comes to the HSE's attention and it actually gets marked for investigation.

Which makes the risk close to zero from an enforcement perspective.
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Bigmac1  
#4 Posted : 16 April 2020 08:22:02(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Or a whistleblower!!!!!!!! If equipment is unsafe and threat to life they will visit.
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peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 16 April 2020 16:40:40(UTC)
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peter gotch

They might visit following a complaint but they probably wouldn't.

Previous discussions on these Forums about HSE's increasing reluctance to investigate complaints. 

.....and just because its certification isn't in date doesn't make it a threat to life or limb. That could be the case whether or not it's in date.

P
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Acorns  
#6 Posted : 17 April 2020 08:42:35(UTC)
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Acorns

Is it just me that's read the HSE document and as I read it, they are saying the rules have not been relaxed, but you can relax them if you like!!!  At least the DVSA were quite specific as to what is /isn't acceptable in terms of MOTs, driver CPC etc.  
But I agree with the above posts that because an item has passed its test date does not make it more or less likely to fail.  The test, like the car's MOT is basically only valid on the day and at the time it was inspected.  The rest n terms of it's maintenance etc is down to the users.  
Disappointingly vague 'leadership' by the HSE

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