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When selecting a tight fitting filtering face piece (FFP3 or FFP2) for working at close quarters in construction (i.e. 2 men lifting a pane of glass into position in a scissor lift) and the work is essential for the site to carry on, would it be best to select a Valved type mask or a Non Valved mask.
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Allan
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Not sure given that WHO guidance is against the general public (anyone other than front line health professionals) using masks.
Why is there an assumption that if people are closer than 2M they MUST be in PPE masks? We don't get issued masks in the queue for the supermarket, the colleagues working on stocking the shelves do not wear masks, the check-out operator behind the perspex screen is not wearing a mask. And as it is beginning to raise its head, since we have had a few days of sunshine, how comfortable are these employees going to be in a rubber mask? They are already required to wear a hard hat on site so swap these for the forced air filter pack type with full face shield. OR time for a Baldrick moment where I have a cunning plan - why not buy these operatives the face visors that fit their hard hat? If they cough or are coughed at then the aerosol hits the visor - Simples! and no need for RPE and beard shaving, easy communication as you are not trying to shout through a face piece, low maintenance (wash with warm soapy water) and no filter elements to change. Edited by user 27 April 2020 18:37:41(UTC)
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Not sure given that WHO guidance is against the general public (anyone other than front line health professionals) using masks.
Why is there an assumption that if people are closer than 2M they MUST be in PPE masks? We don't get issued masks in the queue for the supermarket, the colleagues working on stocking the shelves do not wear masks, the check-out operator behind the perspex screen is not wearing a mask. And as it is beginning to raise its head, since we have had a few days of sunshine, how comfortable are these employees going to be in a rubber mask? They are already required to wear a hard hat on site so swap these for the forced air filter pack type with full face shield. OR time for a Baldrick moment where I have a cunning plan - why not buy these operatives the face visors that fit their hard hat? If they cough or are coughed at then the aerosol hits the visor - Simples! and no need for RPE and beard shaving, easy communication as you are not trying to shout through a face piece, low maintenance (wash with warm soapy water) and no filter elements to change. Edited by user 27 April 2020 18:37:41(UTC)
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Construction Leadership Council guidelines, which have been issued with PHE information just states wear RPE if the work needs to be carried out and only for periods of upto 15 minutes. It does not state what type of RPE. However some housebuilders have issued their own guidance using CLC guidelines but actively state FFP1 or FFP2 must be used and FFP3 used as normal for dusts etc. I dont know where the level of protection comes from though.
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Once again the herd mentallity so prevalent in construction rearing its head - one does, so everyone follows suit.
Perhaps PHE can advise where all industries are going to source suitable and sufficient masks given the health care sector activley working with Covid patients can not assure adequate supplies.
Or have I just answered why it is so wooly - CLC know supply will be an issue but they need to participate saying something other than close the site.
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Once again the herd mentallity so prevalent in construction rearing its head - one does, so everyone follows suit.
Perhaps PHE can advise where all industries are going to source suitable and sufficient masks given the health care sector activley working with Covid patients can not assure adequate supplies.
Or have I just answered why it is so wooly - CLC know supply will be an issue but they need to participate saying something other than close the site.
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Originally Posted by: Roundtuit  Once again the herd mentallity so prevalent in construction rearing its head - one does, so everyone follows suit.
Perhaps PHE can advise where all industries are going to source suitable and sufficient masks given the health care sector activley working with Covid patients can not assure adequate supplies.
Or have I just answered why it is so wooly - CLC know supply will be an issue but they need to participate saying something other than close the site. Have you read the guidance? Also companies are getting hold of RPE, tells you how poor the government procurement process is!!
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