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Hope Jacob  
#1 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:17:45(UTC)
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Hope Jacob

The School where I work wants to hire several marquees to temporarily house groups of pupils. The idea is that the same group (bubble) will use it for a few days and then another group will come and use it. My question is what level of sanitisation would be recommended between the groups? Obviously we will wipe down furniture (table tops etc) but would fogging me recommended, or washing the walls? or does this seems unnecessary?

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:34:06(UTC)
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HSSnail

What are you doing with your ordinary classrooms?

I take it you have seen this? https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-implementing-protective-measures-in-education-and-childcare-settings/coronavirus-covid-19-implementing-protective-measures-in-education-and-childcare-settings

Have had a quck look and it does not recomend fogging as far as i can see.

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Hope Jacob  
#3 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:40:37(UTC)
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Hope Jacob

Yes thanks, that document is my bible.

We are not swapping groups in normal classrooms. .A single bubble uses it all the time. The marquees are to try and give at least a couple of days schooling to the other year groups before the end of the academic year.

Having said that, no way will we be fogging classrooms over the summer in preparation for September so it does seem a bit odd to me.

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:44:42(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Fogging with what? Formaldehyde is probably the most effective agent but it is very toxic and overall nasty. Hydrogen peroxide is safer to use but can be unreliable especially out of doors. I am not sure about other agents. Just spraying disinfectant about is fairly pointless and smacks of “biosafety theatre”.    

Xavier123  
#5 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:45:35(UTC)
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Xavier123

Yeah, fogging is very much a 'cherry on the top' approach to hygiene. My take is that it can't replace effective two stage cleaning and is, regardless, not reliable at dealing with vertical surfaces.

Hope Jacob  
#6 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:49:09(UTC)
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Hope Jacob

It would be hydrogen peroxide.

that's interesting about it not being effective on vertical surfaces.

My view would also be that ventilation would be key for this plan, keep the doors open, unzip the sides etc

A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 15 June 2020 08:58:06(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

How are you intending to validate the fogging process? If you are going to spend that sort of money you need to be sure it works.

I am assuming that you would open it up AFTER fumigating it. The hydrogen peroxide should breakdown not long after it has been applied so it will not leave any harmful residue. But the process of creating the fog is very temperature and humidity dependent.

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JeffreyWatt on 15/06/2020(UTC)
Hope Jacob  
#8 Posted : 15 June 2020 09:20:32(UTC)
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Hope Jacob

The only validation I can think of is the use of testing sheets to check the hydrogen peroxide has covered all surfaces, but if there is anything else, let me know!

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 15 June 2020 09:36:18(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The marquees will obviously be on either school fields or playgrounds / car-parks - dosing chemicals through run-off, spillage or tipping a bucket down the drain to ground water / rainwater sewers is against Environmental Regulation in the UK.

Personally I think you are going OTT considering washing down the walls with disinfectants the canvas or plastic may not be compatible with the planned agent resulting in damage claims from the hire company.

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Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 15 June 2020 09:36:18(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The marquees will obviously be on either school fields or playgrounds / car-parks - dosing chemicals through run-off, spillage or tipping a bucket down the drain to ground water / rainwater sewers is against Environmental Regulation in the UK.

Personally I think you are going OTT considering washing down the walls with disinfectants the canvas or plastic may not be compatible with the planned agent resulting in damage claims from the hire company.

thanks 4 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 15/06/2020(UTC), JeffreyWatt on 15/06/2020(UTC), A Kurdziel on 15/06/2020(UTC), JeffreyWatt on 15/06/2020(UTC)
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