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Fabian38069  
#1 Posted : 25 June 2020 08:34:40(UTC)
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Fabian38069

I have been thinking about the retention periods for all of our COVID-19 documentation, mainly prompted by my IT department.

These are fairly unprecedented times and it is difficult to second guess the possible long term affects from this pandemic, I can see mental health issues having a particularly long tail.

I am also mindful of the possibility of illness insurance claims down the line, principally mental health issues or issues from homeworking.

How long are you planning to keep yours, I am moving towards treating all of the documentation as I would Occupational Health records and making it 40 years from last entry.

Overkill, paranoia, or good practice?

stevedm  
#2 Posted : 25 June 2020 08:41:58(UTC)
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stevedm

Hi Fabian...from my point of view nothing changes...people keep using (I'm not criticising you) 'exceptional times' as a bit of an excuse to change policies or thier interpretation of the current regulations or rules...any tests that are conducted to detect or assess COVID 19 are already health records and subject to the same retention and confidentiality...might be a fringe view but it is backed by a CQC audit and Clinical Direction from BMC..  :)

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A Kurdziel on 25/06/2020(UTC), Kate on 25/06/2020(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#3 Posted : 25 June 2020 08:59:49(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

What sort of records are you collecting?

A persons exceptions to this rule might be if a) the person is infected and therefore poses a risk to other people. I that case the person should be sent home and told to self-isolate. The time off work should be noted on their records but nothing else recorded.

b) The person becomes infected at work due to actual work activities eg they pick it up in clinical setting or in a diagnostic lab. Then it becomes a RIDDOR. Catching it from Joe Public or a fellow worker does not count.

The rules on record keeping have not changed and any personal data should be destroyed once it is no longer relevant. If you are concerned by the fact that some people have reported long term health issues following infection, don’t be concerned. Just about any infection can for a minority of people have long term consequences. Following this up is not your responsibility as an employer. It’s why we have an NHS and PHE. A number of organisations seem to want to take over full responsibility for the health of their employees. I am not really sure why.

CptBeaky  
#4 Posted : 25 June 2020 09:12:59(UTC)
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CptBeaky

The only record (beyond absence) we are recording is the furlough start and finish times, which will be kept for 2 years, as per our usual policy in regards to working time.

This is so that any attendance "hearing" will take into account the time they were on furlough with regards to their % of days worked on time and in full. We have had a staggered return to work and would not want those that started back 8 weeks early to suffer unfairly for a day off during that time.

As for H&S, I can't think of anything job related that we would need to keep, unless we have a significant outbreak at work in the future

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A Kurdziel on 25/06/2020(UTC)
Fabian38069  
#5 Posted : 25 June 2020 10:52:46(UTC)
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Fabian38069

Thanks for the answers. I don't think I worded my question to well.

I was thinking more in terms of Risk Assessments, General Health Questionnaires (for return to work, we are doing this for all employees not just return following isolation etc.) , and associated documents.

I follow your reasoning entirely, however my concern is having some form of defensibility in the event of an insurance claim.

The long term affects of this pandemic are pretty hard to anticipate particularly in respect of mental health. It is quite likely we will be called upon to demonstrate what we did several years down the line.

CptBeaky  
#6 Posted : 25 June 2020 10:58:31(UTC)
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CptBeaky

Our employment law advisor suggest that you should keep permenant records of any assessments regarding H&S law. There is no set time that I am aware of though. 

Fabian38069  
#7 Posted : 25 June 2020 15:18:41(UTC)
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Fabian38069

Thanks CptBeaky pretty typical lawyer or insurance blokes answer.

Keep everything .... I think I agree with them in the instance at least, still interested to hear some alternative, less belt and braces views if they are out there.

craigroberts76  
#8 Posted : 28 June 2020 21:27:26(UTC)
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craigroberts76

keep everything and wait for the PPI style claims to come flooding in within the next couple of years

Fabian38069  
#9 Posted : 30 June 2020 12:01:12(UTC)
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Fabian38069

Sadly craigroberts76 I think that prediction is going to be a reality.

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