I have found that the way to prevent glasses steaming up is to dip them in soapy water.  Possibly the same might work for the visors?UyFk

Edited by user 20 August 2020 07:07:24(UTC)  | Reason: To let you all know I wasn't being rude, my Captcha came out in the wrong place

Any pointers to the actual legislation that states both devices must be simultaneously worn?

I am aware of the hue and cry through the media and its anecdotal pseudo science about protections however the fundamental shift that a visor is by itself wholly unsatisfactory raises issues for those of us who find "typical" face coverings impossible.

Unfortunately lynch mob see - lynch mob chant.

Its in the "close contact industry guidance"

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working-safely-during-coronavirus-covid-19/close-contact-services

The person providing a service (such as hairdressers or beauticians), because of the period of time spent in close proximity to a person’s face, mouth and nose should therefore wear further protection in addition to any that they might usually wear. This should take the form of a clear visor and a Type II face mask.

Changed last Thursday i think.

So not legislation, and as per all guidance so wooly we could knit Captain Sensible a thousand jumpers.

I especially liked this particular gem within the guidance: Please be mindful that the wearing of a face covering may inhibit communication with people who rely on lip reading, facial expressions and clear sound.

Any suggestions for what "please be mindful" means.

After all they cannont be inferring a hairdresser turns away a client who would need face coverings to be removed in accordance with the stated exemptions in The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings in a Relevant Place) (England) Regulations 2020.

Edited by user 20 August 2020 10:00:21(UTC)  | Reason: FFS

Many thanks for your comments 

Title page to the Face Covering Regulations: The Secretary of State makes these Regulations in exercise of the powers conferred by sections 45C(1), (3)(c) and (4)(d), 45F(2) and 45P(2) of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.

Proably the biggest issue is the out and out confusion being allowed to propogate between a matter of public health and Health & Safety at Work.

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit

Title page to the Face Covering Regulations: The Secretary of State makes these Regulations in exercise of the powers conferred by sections 45C(1), (3)(c) and (4)(d), 45F(2) and 45P(2) of the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984.

Proably the biggest issue is the out and out confusion being allowed to propogate between a matter of public health and Health & Safety at Work.

You auditioning to do backing vocals on my stuck record?

Originally Posted by: Hodgey7

Hi,

Any advice on a resolve to prevent visors steaming up whilst wearing a mask as a hairdresser would be much appreciated. The requirement is now a must, but I know a number of hairdressers who are having this problem.  many thanks

Gary

Hi Gary,

I've joined the forum today to complete some research around the scale and reach of the problem that fogging of PPE is causing in new areas, post-Covid. Turns out I didn't have to look far to find an issue raised! 

This is an interesting one, I hadn't considered hairdressing as an industry that would make it into my line of sight, but for sure, now it's presented I see the problems - lots of hot humid air from dryers mixed with lower ambient room temperatures sadly make for good fogging conditions for eyewear.

I've resold a product called FogtechDX since 2005, and it's gradually morphed from a motorcycle only product into an industrial safety product. In the bike world it has won an outright test of all commercially available anti-fog products for use on visors (that was 2008, but nothing much has changed in the market since) and sells all around the world for use on PPE or optical gear in all manner of different industries and pastimes.

Every man and his dog claims to have an effective antifog product, but truth is, they're hard to get right. You're trying to beat the fundamental natural behaviour of water and well, that's a tough one to beat - it can dissolve rock, soften bone and wash off most anything stuck to anything!

I've sold hundreds of thousands of sachets of this product, and in my personal experience, it's pretty much peerless when used correctly. I'm confident it could help you (and other hairdressers) in resolving this problem. 

If you wanted a few samples to trial, ping me a message and we'll get them sorted - I'm always interested in working with new areas and seeing how we can crack the particular issues faced in that field, also looking for testimonials in interesting areas for upcoming marketing materials.

All the best, 

Paul B

(if you wanted to take a look at the product listing, it's here > https://visorvision.co.uk/shop/ols/categories/anti-fog )

Originally Posted by: peter gotch

Paul 

Please read the Forum rules.

Adverts not permitted.

REPORTED.

Gotya Peter, 

understood on this - I am genuinely here to absorb real-world user experiences for what is undeniably a sales effort, but not direct selling on here. I appreciate the rules exist to stop it turning into a cheap market place.

I will remove the link to the product and the name of the product, my offer to Gary for samples still stands though.

btw - I probably wouldn't have posted my content if someone else hadn't posted links to an ARCO product - at the end of the day the OP was looking for solutions (pun half intended) and I felt I could help along with the other chap who posted ARCO stuff.

No lasting harm done I hope.

Paul