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cwdenham  
#1 Posted : 14 May 2021 10:55:55(UTC)
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cwdenham

Has anyone come across guidance on whether households or support bubbles (e.g. two people from one household working in the same place) are applicable for social distancing in the workplace? At the moment all our people are working from home, but the question has popped up for the future.

Social distancing rules for support bubbles say they do not have to distance from one another but doesn't mention working, just social contexts.

Govt guidelines state that everyone should be socially distanced where possible in the workplace, or have additional controls in place. There's no mention of exceptions for support bubbles etc.

I'm working on the basis that this means these bubbles don't apply in the workplace and therefore everyone needs to socially distance when on site. I'm excluding HSE "workplace bubbles" here because they don't have the same purpose or exemptions for distancing.

I think distancing everyone is by far the simplest approach, and avoids lots of exemptions and mixed messages but, for education purposes, is there anything out there that contradicts this?

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jimmyquinn68 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 14 May 2021 11:28:16(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Workplace bubbles became a bit of bandwagon last year, but people are finally realising that in most workplaces they don’t really make sense. For a workplace bubble to work it would involve  group of people essentially isolating together. So a gang going around the country and not mixing with others at work or away from work would constitute a bubble. Few such bubbles  exist. Most people go home to the family go out shopping and they are starting to socialise. The bubble has now burst.

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jimmyquinn68 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
CptBeaky  
#3 Posted : 14 May 2021 11:55:42(UTC)
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CptBeaky

I would suspect that it is down to the business and their COVID "risk assessment".

Our business has a lot of friends and family working here. We tend to allow people who live together to "relax" the social distancing rules together. We find it beneficial as it reduces the risks involved when it comes to such things as team lifts. As you note, workplace bubbles (i.e. ensuring that certain groups don't mix at all with other groups within the wokplace) are already a recommended "control". Therefore it makes sense to try and put families together in these bubbles.

We recently had a non-HSE "HSE" inspector come to our premises to check we were doing what we needed to, and he was happy with this.

As a side note, the only thing he wanted improving on was the removal of disposable cups at the water fountains/cooler, which had me puzzled. Surely the cooler was the transmission risk, not single use, disposable cups?

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jimmyquinn68 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
HSSnail  
#4 Posted : 14 May 2021 11:57:04(UTC)
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HSSnail

The only place we allow the "bubble" concept is in vehicles where its not reasoanbly practicale to split teams - this is contained in the Gov guidance for vehicles.

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jimmyquinn68 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
hopeful  
#5 Posted : 14 May 2021 12:38:08(UTC)
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hopeful

We have allowed this for a husband and wife team in a warehouse with plenty of space but we had a small workforce present at the time so was easy to manage. It will  be a challenge if people do not know that they are a bubble, it will possibly reinforce non compliance of other measures as there are mixed messages and make compliance challenging. I was happy in the specific circumstance where everyone knew everyone, very low numbers in the workplace (about 10) but I would not encourage in larger settings such as our head office.

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jimmyquinn68 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
jimmyquinn68  
#6 Posted : 18 May 2021 06:03:02(UTC)
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jimmyquinn68

Hi all, we as a company were utilising the two person bubbles from the same family and 3-4 working together who live together in the same household. That is and has been the case since last year although I would agree that perhaps the "bubble" has burst due to social interaction with others and family members after work.

Active monitoring has been the way ahead for us along with collaboration from all trade contractors.

That said I do not mind sharing all my project COVID specific RAMS, project impact assessments and operational management plans.

BR.

JQ

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Wailes900134 on 18/05/2021(UTC)
craigroberts76  
#7 Posted : 20 May 2021 13:07:17(UTC)
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craigroberts76

I agree, last year everyone seemed to be in a bubble with everyone, unfortunately so where their familes and friends, therefore the bubble didnt do its job.

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