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A Kurdziel  
#1 Posted : 08 July 2021 11:24:58(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I saw this and thought that  this was an interesting but informal approach to working at height. What anybody else think?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-57688737

 

achrn  
#2 Posted : 08 July 2021 11:31:38(UTC)
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achrn

I thought, shall I post that to the IOSH forums?  Then I had a meeting, so didn't get round to it.

I wondered how the crane hire compnay (and the council) cover themselves in the event that someone does fall off or a load drops on someone.  Clearly the people climbing the bonfire are not at work (and I'm sure the council employees stay securely at ground level), but does the crane hire company have a lifting plan?  Does it say 'anyone you turns up will sling the load, and the driver will follow the instruction of whoever has the loudest voice'?

Mostly though (if I'm honest) I thought about how glad I am that I don't live in an area with that level of sectarianism.  I thought the people wheeled out at the end ('intimidation, provocation? eh, that's just teh what we do round here') did their cause no favours.

Evans38004  
#3 Posted : 08 July 2021 11:56:49(UTC)
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Evans38004

With the cost of wooden pallets at ~£10 each.

Glad the austerity period is over and people are prepared to burn away their money again.

I trust the has Carbon footprint of this event is interesting too. 

Edited by user 08 July 2021 11:58:06(UTC)  | Reason: typo

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 08 July 2021 12:16:44(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Yes, I think it’s wrong on so many levels (unintentional WAH joke there!)

I assume the volunteers scrambling up the side are just that and if they fall nobody is held liable but what about the council employees and the crane operator.

What would happen if it was to topple in a high wind who would be liable for the death and destruction?

Did they say that in was made  from 20 grands worth of pallets? Of course this the land of ‘ash for cash’  so  I would not be surprised if  the difference between what was spent and what was bought was not significant.

And of course it preserves entrenched sectarian attitudes, but I suspect its mainly for the kids. After all this is a tradition for them to pass on…

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 08 July 2021 12:30:16(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Do you think the people at CHEP (blue pallets) will be collecting their rentals back?

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Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 08 July 2021 12:30:16(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Do you think the people at CHEP (blue pallets) will be collecting their rentals back?

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Evans38004  
#7 Posted : 08 July 2021 12:34:00(UTC)
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Evans38004

To show my age - I thought CHEP was Blue Peter - not Blue Pallets ;-) 

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CptBeaky  
#8 Posted : 08 July 2021 12:52:00(UTC)
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CptBeaky

The enviromentalist in me shakes my head at this. There are much more efficient, cleaning and safer ways to express your bigotry.

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 08 July 2021 13:04:45(UTC)
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Roundtuit

5th November

Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 08 July 2021 13:04:45(UTC)
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Roundtuit

5th November

CptBeaky  
#11 Posted : 08 July 2021 13:38:22(UTC)
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CptBeaky

Yep that one too! 

peter gotch  
#12 Posted : 08 July 2021 13:56:38(UTC)
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peter gotch

I suspect that if it all went horribly wrong, there would be potential for criminal and/or civil legal action, and I think that those who own the crane would have some very difficulty questions to answer, including perhaps from their insurers.

Security image is testing my understanding of the points of the compass.

Connor35037  
#13 Posted : 08 July 2021 14:42:45(UTC)
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Connor35037

Back in the day John Noakes would be introducing the show from the top of that!

Originally Posted by: Evans38004 Go to Quoted Post

To show my age - I thought CHEP was Blue Peter - not Blue Pallets ;-) 

Roundtuit  
#14 Posted : 08 July 2021 15:31:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

With his only safety device "a roll of sticky back plastic"

Roundtuit  
#15 Posted : 08 July 2021 15:31:52(UTC)
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Roundtuit

With his only safety device "a roll of sticky back plastic"

achrn  
#16 Posted : 13 July 2021 09:27:08(UTC)
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achrn

There are glimpses of the finished edifice and the start of its burn at https://www.irishtimes.c...e-in-the-north-1.4617924

Also has comments to camera from a few more locals.  They are at least talking more about the positives than the last cited video, though it's still only going to be about improving cohesion within one part of the community.  Still glad I don't have to live in the midst of it.

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