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Oxy  
#1 Posted : 11 August 2021 08:58:15(UTC)
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Oxy

We use a small range of  lifting devices that for lifting certain components, these devices can range from 35T up to 75T in weight, connected to the main crane by the use of slings and shackles, the question was asked if this was a suspended load or not, and it recieved a different range of opinions. Some say that this becomes part of the crane so it is not a suspended load, therefore walking under it would not be classed as walking under a suspended load...I would be interested to hear your thoughts?

CptBeaky  
#2 Posted : 11 August 2021 10:00:07(UTC)
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CptBeaky

They sound like a "lifting attachment/accessory" to me. Which would require 6 monthly thorough inspections. Without more information though it would be hard to say.

Quote:

The Lifting Operations and Lifting Equipment Regulations 1998

every employer shall ensure that lifting equipment which is exposed to conditions causing deterioration which is liable to result in dangerous situations is—

(a)thoroughly examined—

(i)in the case of lifting equipment for lifting persons or an accessory for lifting, at least every 6 months;

peter gotch  
#3 Posted : 11 August 2021 11:07:25(UTC)
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peter gotch

Oxy

The crane has a safe working load depending on its configuration.

That safe working load includes all that it is lifting, which can include one or more lifting accessories.

As regards any debate about walking below a "suspended load" why don't those having the debate apply some basic thinking? Would any of them want to be underneath if it became detached from the crane?

Once investigated an incident where the attachment to a piling rig detached and fell nearly 30m. There was a labourer underneath - lots of metal hit his helmet, bounced off and broke his collar bone. Would these debaters wish to be in a similar scenario?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 11 August 2021 13:40:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: Oxy Go to Quoted Post
Some say that this becomes part of the crane so it is not a suspended load, therefore walking under it would not be classed as walking under a suspended load

I do not think the attachment will be contemplating its description as it drops on to someones head.

Yes there are areas where it is impossible not to walk under a crane due to its installation especially where the outer track forms part of the building wall however the area immediately below the hoist plus any attachments should be considered a potential risk (albeit remote) of failure whether a load has been attached or not.

thanks 4 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 11/08/2021(UTC), Swygart25604 on 14/08/2021(UTC), A Kurdziel on 11/08/2021(UTC), Swygart25604 on 14/08/2021(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 11 August 2021 13:40:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: Oxy Go to Quoted Post
Some say that this becomes part of the crane so it is not a suspended load, therefore walking under it would not be classed as walking under a suspended load

I do not think the attachment will be contemplating its description as it drops on to someones head.

Yes there are areas where it is impossible not to walk under a crane due to its installation especially where the outer track forms part of the building wall however the area immediately below the hoist plus any attachments should be considered a potential risk (albeit remote) of failure whether a load has been attached or not.

thanks 4 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 11/08/2021(UTC), Swygart25604 on 14/08/2021(UTC), A Kurdziel on 11/08/2021(UTC), Swygart25604 on 14/08/2021(UTC)
Ferdinand A  
#6 Posted : 14 August 2021 05:06:39(UTC)
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Ferdinand A

In my opinion, this will be considered as suspended load. Any objects that has the potential to drop from height while being hook on the crane hook block can be considered as suspended load. Even the hook block can be considered as suspended load because we had one incident that the main hook block fell on the ground because there was a failure of the main hoist wire rope slings. It is better to consider as suspended load (proactive approach) and apply the control measures of lifting such as the area shall be barricaded (exclusion zone).

Saravanan39  
#7 Posted : 14 August 2021 11:42:51(UTC)
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Saravanan39

Lifting device is a component of Crane and for me, its any load which attached externally to the lifting devices will be considered as a suspended load. 

Oxy  
#8 Posted : 22 August 2021 08:29:28(UTC)
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Oxy

Thanks for replies, I also share these thoughts. I just wanted to hear more opinions, as I was questioned on this by one or two experienced lifting guys.

JohnW  
#9 Posted : 22 August 2021 09:47:23(UTC)
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JohnW

The crane may have a safe working load of 75 tonnes, but what is the safe working loads of those attachments?
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