UKCA or CE out of preference?

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ttxela		#1 Posted : 23 December 2021 12:39:19(UTC)
Rank: Forum user		Something dropped on me this morning.... We are looking at buying a machine from china, the manufacturer has not had it CE marked but produces a smaller version which is CE marked. They have quoted what our management feel is an excessive price for CE marking the larger model before supplying it to us. I believe it is allowed for us to buy the machine and put it through the CE marking process ourselves (is an offence committed at the point of purchase or of use?). So far UKCA has not been mentioned. I believe we have a choice between CE and UKCA until Jan 2023, is either preferable if we have this coice or both essentially the same (I have no experience in this). Thanks


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Roundtuit		#2 Posted : 23 December 2021 13:28:37(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain#legislation The Machinery Directive is a piece of legislation falling under UKCA marking. You can CE or UKCA mark however if UKCA is available (there is a UK based conformity assessment body) this is the route that should be used, particularly as the equipment currently bears no marking making it "new" to market rather than continuation of an existing CE supply which benefits from the 2023 extension. As to when an offence is committed the HSE guidance informs this decision: https://www.hse.gov.uk/work-equipment-machinery/ce-mark-summary.htm

4 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.		peter gotch on 23/12/2021(UTC), ttxela on 23/12/2021(UTC), peter gotch on 23/12/2021(UTC), ttxela on 23/12/2021(UTC)
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Roundtuit		#3 Posted : 23 December 2021 13:28:37(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain#legislation The Machinery Directive is a piece of legislation falling under UKCA marking. You can CE or UKCA mark however if UKCA is available (there is a UK based conformity assessment body) this is the route that should be used, particularly as the equipment currently bears no marking making it "new" to market rather than continuation of an existing CE supply which benefits from the 2023 extension. As to when an offence is committed the HSE guidance informs this decision: https://www.hse.gov.uk/work-equipment-machinery/ce-mark-summary.htm

4 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.		peter gotch on 23/12/2021(UTC), ttxela on 23/12/2021(UTC), peter gotch on 23/12/2021(UTC), ttxela on 23/12/2021(UTC)
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paul.skyrme		#4 Posted : 24 December 2021 11:49:07(UTC)
Rank: Super forum user		You quite possibly don't need a Notified Body for the equipment. You will need someone competent to do it and assistance from the OEM to build it to EU/UK standards. This build specification is quite possibly why the cost is more for the CE marked version. I have been through this with end-users in the UK & Chinese OEM's importing into the UK/EU It can be straightforward and cost-effective. It can be more expensive than procuring a CE marked unit from a reputable UK or EU supplier. Just remember that your employer is taking on the role and responsibilities of the manufacturer. Remember that you will need a LOT of information for the Technical File.

2 users thanked paul.skyrme for this useful post.		peter gotch on 24/12/2021(UTC), A Kurdziel on 04/01/2022(UTC)
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