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Pirellipete  
#1 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:13:45(UTC)
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Pirellipete

So, A guy at work twisted his back some weeks ago on a Thursday, he was back at work the next day, Friday

Since then, (over 7 weeks ago), he has not worked a full week, generally turning up for a day then off for 2 or 3 days, 'Resting', taking OTC medication

RIDDOR ??,  or is it just a  Workplace injury Claim in the making ??

From the company's viewpoint, he was doing something he shouldn't have been doing, as he wrote and signed in his Accident Statement, as did the guy helping him

I don't believe it to be a RIDDOR in the literal sense,

chris42  
#2 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:33:30(UTC)
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chris42

I think there are some more questions. Not clear from your post, if there was an identifiable accident. Extract from HSE web page

“Injuries themselves, eg 'feeling a sharp twinge', are not accidents. There must be an identifiable external event that causes the injury, eg a falling object striking someone. Cumulative exposures to hazards, which eventually cause injury (eg repetitive lifting), are not classed as 'accidents' under RIDDOR.”

In addition, whether or not he was working as he should be is irrelevant as it sounds like he was working. So, on the days he was in work was he on light duties or was he doing the full range of his duties?

If he was doing the full range, and there was not 8 days in a row not working then not reportable.

If the twinge was from repetitive working not a specific incident, then not reportable.

Chris

HSSnail  
#3 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:36:15(UTC)
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HSSnail

I do not belive this is RIDDOR, providing while he has been in work he can undertake his normal duties. It has to be 7 consecutive days following the "accident". However that does not mean that this is not a workplace injury and that he does not have a valid claim. He may have been doing something he should not do - but the question will still reamin as to why he was doing it. Hopefuly your investigation has established Underlying and root causes and not just immediate cause.

Chris must have posted as i was typing. Looks like we are saying the same thing.

Edited by user 01 March 2022 09:38:22(UTC)  | Reason: i will spell "the" correctly 1st time one of these days.

Kate  
#4 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:39:09(UTC)
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Kate

Sporadic days off can't be added up to make a RIDDOR, they have to be consecutive.

I agree with all the other comments.

A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:49:36(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

A ’bad back’ is not in itself reportable( I think I am sure) and  as everybody else has said the 7 days must consecutive for it to be reportable under the ‘7 day rule’. Nevertheless you should still investigate this to establish to what extent this is work-related. The injured party could put in a claim and of course as H&S professionals we shouldn’t just be defending our employers but also looking after the employees. If you are doing manual handling correctly, at work, then people should not be getting bad backs(from work).

Pirellipete  
#6 Posted : 01 March 2022 09:52:03(UTC)
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Pirellipete

thanks guys, (In a non-gender specific, all inclusive form of greeting)....

As always, advice and info gratefully received !

thanks 1 user thanked Pirellipete for this useful post.
peter gotch on 01/03/2022(UTC)
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