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BeeneyAVFC  
#1 Posted : 22 March 2022 10:11:25(UTC)
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BeeneyAVFC

Morning,

Is there anyone that could help me please. I need someone who is familiar with the Telecomms industry or working with transient workers. (As I know what should be done IAW Acts/regs etc, but people in this sector know what issues we face).

How do you manage your site Method Statments for each site for gangs that are consintently moving streets and graphical location but doing the same job with the same H&S risks, which can last no longer than 15 minutes and can move large areas/counties? 

Currently I'm spending more time doing the site MS then what the work takes to do (As it is a big part of our SSoW with other docs/CDM Regs). I don't mind this, but surely there is a more efficent way of doing this?

I would be keen to see how people manage this, because as a H&S professional in a small to medium size business, I think I might be looking to deep into this and causing paperwork for no reason. Which I know is not good enough for the worker but covers the CDM and H&S regs.

Whats  are your thoughts? All views and opinions will be greatly recieved.

(Just for info: Generic, Site Specific and dynamic risk assessments  are all in place and submitted via our process by the on site operatives who are all competent/trained, they also have 24/7 access to all TBT, Procedures and policies available online and in a personal safety folder on their vehicles. Once the RA is done, it is then forwarded into our sytem and checked over by myself as the H&S Professional. All work is briefed accordingly).

peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 22 March 2022 12:12:40(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Beeney

I think perhaps where you are overegging the pudding is explained in the last few words of your posting.

You say that all the site operatives are competent and trained but then say:

"Once the RA is done, it is then forwarded into our sytem and checked over by myself as the H&S Professional. All work is briefed accordingly"

If those doing a dynamic risk assessment when they get to site, then have to forward it to your system and then wait for it to be checked by YOU, so that "all work is briefed accordingly", then I can see how this could take much longer than the actual work.

Suggest you leave it to those on site to do their own dynamic risk assessment, brief themselves and trust that they remain competent.

You could then sample the dynamic risk assessments that are submitted to look for issues that might not be fully addressed.

Can't see how anyone remote from the location could adequately do a briefing - even if aided with photos etc.There are going to be location specific issues which photos will not fully pick up.

All about applying a proportionate approach.

P

Edited by user 22 March 2022 12:13:41(UTC)  | Reason: Silly typo

BeeneyAVFC  
#3 Posted : 22 March 2022 13:45:37(UTC)
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BeeneyAVFC

Hi Peter,

Thank you for the reply,  the last bit (in brackets) was just to explain the process. The RA is not my issue. The RA is done and sent as confirmation its been done as any other H&S app that is out there. I look over it for any outstanding issues that might have arisen.. They are competent and briefed on site. They also have site supervisors who carry out site briefings so my apoligies for the confusion. Again the site RA has instructions to stop work etc if deemed unsafe etc.

The risk assessing is not the issue. I want to look at how I can summarise my MS and seperate the doing the job (Which does not change) IAW with the risks and then how to add the site specific information of the MS into something that will be complient.

An example of this, is a large Tier 1 company has everything online and links it to other documents ensuring they are compliant. I want to avoid writing a large MS each time. Its large due to coming under CDM regs, it serves as our site plan and large part of our SSoW. Again its hard to explain as it seems to be an issue in smaller buisnesses within the idustry i work in.

 

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