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R@chi1952  
#1 Posted : 24 March 2022 11:14:46(UTC)
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R@chi1952

Hello all, hope all well.

We have HGV drivers who need to sheet trailers at a certain customer site. The the site issues the drivers a safety harness to use on their sheeting station. The drivers only have to wear the harness at this particular customer site.

My thoughts are it the customer who issues the harnesses responsibility to train the drivers , but the customer is saying it's ours.

Please can anyone point me to where I can find details on who's responsibility it is to train workers on how to use a safety harness, and ideally any legislation??

Thanks in advance

HSSnail  
#2 Posted : 28 March 2022 07:14:11(UTC)
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HSSnail

Does it matter who trains them as long as they are trained? If you want to keep delivering to the site you might just want to get it done! If you need a legal requirement them look at HASWA and management regs - Its the EMPLOYERS duty to train - sounds like you. But dont forget that both you and the employer of the delivery site have a duty to co-operate

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 28 March 2022 07:44:30(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Never been a fan of the harness approach to sheeting trailers.

Attach them to a fixed line and you cannot reach what needs to be handled.

Attach them to an inertia reel or similar and the driver will typically have hit the floor before the device engages or be slapped against the side of the structure.

Then you get to this liability avoidance discussion as to who trains the operator. Ideally this should come down to who provided the equipment in the first place as there are many variations on a theme when you mention harness.

Such a position is reinforced by the essential pre-use checks as ideally if you train with the device to be used it is more likely you spot the significant issues (and can identify local repeat problesm) which should reject use of damaged / faulty equipment.

As the harness is supplied at the clients site making it client equipment someone there should be regularly inspecting the device anyway as "fit for purpose" - who is training them?

As Brian said it is all about cooperation this client seems to be all about bucking "its liability" in a situation they have chosen to create.

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 28 March 2022 07:44:30(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Never been a fan of the harness approach to sheeting trailers.

Attach them to a fixed line and you cannot reach what needs to be handled.

Attach them to an inertia reel or similar and the driver will typically have hit the floor before the device engages or be slapped against the side of the structure.

Then you get to this liability avoidance discussion as to who trains the operator. Ideally this should come down to who provided the equipment in the first place as there are many variations on a theme when you mention harness.

Such a position is reinforced by the essential pre-use checks as ideally if you train with the device to be used it is more likely you spot the significant issues (and can identify local repeat problesm) which should reject use of damaged / faulty equipment.

As the harness is supplied at the clients site making it client equipment someone there should be regularly inspecting the device anyway as "fit for purpose" - who is training them?

As Brian said it is all about cooperation this client seems to be all about bucking "its liability" in a situation they have chosen to create.

seanoliver68  
#5 Posted : 29 March 2022 14:27:10(UTC)
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seanoliver68

as you are the employer i would put it down to yourselves.

Harnesses dont only stop at training first instance, you will need a register of seriel numbers / manufactuers date and date of inspection. then they need checking every 6 months by a competent trained person.

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