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firesafety101  
#1 Posted : 28 June 2022 11:11:40(UTC)
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firesafety101

Hi, There was an RTC involving two fire appliances in December 1988.  I was injured in that accident and for personal reasons I am trying to gain a copy of the Accident Inquiry.  There is always an inquiry when fire appliaances crash and when persons are injured.

It took a good few weeks for the fire authority to locate the documents they thought I wanted and sent them to me.  Alas not Inquiry report but reports that I wrote and submitted at the time.

I've now asked for what I wanted in the first place but told they may not be available.

Strange how they found part of the story but not the part I really want.  This is not for claiming compo, that was settled many years ago, I just want to see the inquiry's findings.

There are 'drop dead dates' for certain types of information, does anyone have thoughts on what I'm asking for and should it be available.

Thanks. 

SammyK  
#2 Posted : 29 June 2022 10:39:04(UTC)
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SammyK

have you tried sending a subject access request @ firesafety?

HSSnail  
#3 Posted : 29 June 2022 10:46:03(UTC)
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HSSnail

In these days of "data protection" i think its highly unlickly you will find such a report 34 years after the event - unless (like for occupational health) there is some specific legislation/fire services requirement. If it was an injury while fighting an actual fire i would think you stood more of a chance but with an RTA (or what ever we are calling them now) i would not hold my breath.

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 29 June 2022 10:59:08(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

  Depends on how obsessive your filing system is/was. In the civil service something like a formal enquiry  into an incident would deserve its own registered file. Every five years or so it would come back to the office, from the registry,  for a review. At some point based on relevance a decision would be made to shred it. The fact that it was shredded would be recorded so it would not disappear without a trace. It might have left “footprints” for example if the inquiry lead to recommendations for specific actions and the justification those actions might  refer back to the inquiry.  I have no idea how  a fire brigade manages its documentation.

peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 29 June 2022 15:49:49(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi firesafety101 - to be honest I am suprised that the Fire Authority even had what you had provided 34 years ago.

Suggests that they haven't been doing the sort of regular review and shredding that AK refers to.

As happens after I retired and when my library was finally returned to me after lockdown etc, I came across copies of a couple of expert witness reports that I had done years ago (but not 34 years!)> But the project files would have been archived a few years after the project was completed and then shredded some years later.

So, I suppose, the message is that if they have retained some documentation for so long, it is possible that if you press them, they might uncover the rest.

firesafety101  
#6 Posted : 04 July 2022 10:07:12(UTC)
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firesafety101

Thanks everyone.

I am sure there was an inquiry and every scrap of paper to do with that would have been joined together and filed somewhere.

Eventually during an archiving process all that would have been "scanned" and stored somewhere.

What surprises me is that some but not all documents have been "found".

I have followed proper channels. 

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