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NBBeacock  
#1 Posted : 24 July 2018 11:11:33(UTC)
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NBBeacock

I work in a production factory and we have 2 office blocks that are accesible without going anywhere near the production area. I have been asked a question by a member of staff about babies and children on site and if they are allowed, the question came about because one of the office staff who had been on maternity leave brought her new baby into the office and this was seen.  I realise that office environments offer their own safety issues especially were young children could be introduced but wondred if anyone had a policy/ risk assessmnet in place for this type of thing or if we even have to have something in place ?

Woolf13  
#2 Posted : 24 July 2018 11:37:26(UTC)
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Woolf13

This is an interesting one and something that happpened to us recently where a baby was brought into the office environment and the mother started to change the baby in the office. The assumption is that people would understand that bringing a baby into work is not really ideal. However, as a parent you are clearly proud and want to show off your child. We had a reasoned discussion with the parent and they understood the reasons why this should not happen going forward.

As it is such a unique situation most companies would not have a policy or risk assessment in place for such an event and it would be perhaps disproportionate to do so. However, if you wish to encourage or make it an option than why not? The first thing to ensure is you undertake a risk assessment, develop a policy and ensure all would be parents and employees have been communicated to on the matter. You should also check with your insurance company to see if you are covered for visiting parents/children. They may just say no and then health and safety would be blamed rather than the insurance company and before you know it there would be a newspaper article saying ACME Ltd refuses hungry baby food....I digress.

You would need to make clear specific controls and no go areas for the parent and child and factor in any adjustments to your building as rooms should be made available for the parent to change/look after said child whilst on the premises etc. You will also have to consider what other people think as not everyone will appreicate having children entering the work place (even under the supervision of a parent).

I hope this helps and provides a starter for ten.

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NBBeacock on 24/07/2018(UTC)
karen  
#3 Posted : 24 July 2018 13:06:30(UTC)
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karen

My heart sinks when I read a post like this. Reminds me why I'm seriously considering giving up being a H&S professional. All the offices I have worked in over the years it has been pretty much a requirement that you take your new born into the office to show off to your colleagues.

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Andrew W Walker  
#4 Posted : 24 July 2018 13:21:32(UTC)
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Andrew W Walker

I implemented a VERY strict policy when it comes to new mothers bringing in their babies to the work place.

'All babies MUST be kept away from machinery & the H&S Manager'.

Works for us...

;-)

Andy

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Hsquared14  
#5 Posted : 24 July 2018 13:22:49(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Originally Posted by: karen Go to Quoted Post

My heart sinks when I read a post like this. Reminds me why I'm seriously considering giving up being a H&S professional. All the offices I have worked in over the years it has been pretty much a requirement that you take your new born into the office to show off to your colleagues.

I have to say mine too Karen - what harm do you think would come to the baby?  You're hardly going to set it to work operating a lathe!!  I can't see any reason why a proud mum or dad shouldn't show their offspring off.  Where I worked we just let it be known where and when said baby was going to be - in reception at 2pm, in the canteen at 11am etc and people who wanted to popped in and oohed and ahhed as they wished.  I would mark this down as insignificant risk and therefore you don't need anything in writing.  Just let it be known that the parent and baby and expected to stay in the designated place and let people come to them - obviously give the parent access to a toilet!!  No need to be a kill joy about this. 

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Bigmac  
#6 Posted : 24 July 2018 13:59:49(UTC)
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ArturK

I am aganist bringing babies and/or children to the workplace.

I will mention just few hazards associated with babies and/or children to the workplace.

It is distraction for others (increase potential for accident), quite often generate extra noise (noise and stress hazard) and you need to look your steps where are you going as toddler can be everywhere (slip, trip and fall hazard), not to mention self closing doors (hit by moving object hazard) which can harm children when the parents disappear to toilet or talking to others.

Employees toilets are for adults in majority cases - not for children/babies.

If proud parents want to share joy, they can do outside workplace, outside working hours.

Elfin Davy 09  
#7 Posted : 24 July 2018 15:13:28(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

I'm against it cos it costs me a fortune in "lucky silver coins" !

(...seriously though, this is hardly something new, it's gone on for as long as I've been of working age and I've personally never come across one accident or injury caused by a doting new parent bringing baby into the workplace).

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NBBeacock  
#8 Posted : 24 July 2018 15:32:42(UTC)
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NBBeacock

I will just say that I knew this would be a contentious issue when I posted it, I just wondered if anyone else had anything in place. I think when posts say things like Fred & Ann will be coming on site at 11:00 and will be in the main office with their new child, this is actually having a system in place. I have had 4 children and worked at the same place as my wife with 3 of them who were all displayed with joy to our co workers, (Some even gave a silver coin) The issue I have in the new workplace is that even though the production area is 100% off limits some people bring their toddlers (3 and 4 years)on site when they are not at work and sometimes go from one office block to another to make sure they see everyone. I personally would not do this (Not just because my oldest is now 28) because I think it opens up hazards that that do not need to be there. Having worked for "Bigger" companies where a children on site policy would be in place we currently have nothing and "Some" people seem to just tip the scales a bit much.

MattSmith189  
#9 Posted : 25 July 2018 08:22:22(UTC)
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MattSmith189

The CEO at my firm is very family orientated. 

Employees sometimes will bring in their newborn baby to show them off and others sometimes will have children at work between say 3-5 because they have not been able to arrange childcare on that particular day.

They are not allowed in the production areas however.

Nothing bad has ever happened and the kids that have come in have always been well behaved.

We have a small section in our H&S Policy under visitors that says Employees children on site must be attended at all times and are not to enter hazardous areas.

I don't see a problem with it.

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NBBeacock on 25/07/2018(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#10 Posted : 25 July 2018 09:09:07(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Some of these postings imply that their workplaces are so dangerous that nobody except a fully trained operative is allowed anywhere near them. As well as excluding babies this this should include Boards of Directors, auditors and local politicians looking for a photo opportunity.

One of the reasons for the negative reactions could be that some people see the workplace as a refuge from their kids and family, and seeing children at work reminds them of the world out there, which they would rather forget.

I had one manager like this, so whenever he was out I’d bring number one son in and use his desk as a changing station!  

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peter gotch on 06/07/2022(UTC)
O'Donnell54548  
#11 Posted : 25 July 2018 10:22:03(UTC)
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O'Donnell54548

Should children be allowed in the workplace? only if they are old enough to climb up chimneys or small enough to clean under the machines.

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Wakarisu  
#12 Posted : 05 July 2022 14:59:08(UTC)
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Wakarisu

The appearance of children in the workplace is permissible only in extreme cases and only if the working conditions are not dangerous or harmful. It would be best if you also considered that for such parents, it is necessary to equip a special place where they can feed and change the child.

peter gotch  
#13 Posted : 06 July 2022 10:34:40(UTC)
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peter gotch

If you work in a Zero Harm environment, then clearly bringing in young babies introduces an entirely unnecessary risk, but it's no different from the risk of arranging for your colleagues to coo over the infant by meeting up in the local pub, libary or wherever (somewhere where any accident would not count against the organisation's "metrics").

If you work in an environment where a proportionate approach is taken to risk management then you shouldn't actually need a detailed policy on such issues - it is OBVIOUS that the baby shouldn't be proudly presented next to a lathe being operated. It's a very long time since children were permitted to clean underneath unguarded shafts in British factories.

PDarlow  
#14 Posted : 06 July 2022 11:05:58(UTC)
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PDarlow

If a proud mother or father wanted to bring their newborn into the office to say hi then I have no problem - put away your H&S clipboard and smile and coo.

However, if the parents then need to be told don't take your newborn into the factory (noise and dust, machinery and FLTs) or not to walk accross the busy transport yard or into warehouses where FLTs also operate then that is a whole different issue and I would feel sorry for the poor child.

Just my opinion.

HSSnail  
#15 Posted : 06 July 2022 11:31:01(UTC)
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HSSnail

Originally Posted by: Wakarisu Go to Quoted Post

The appearance of children in the workplace is permissible only in extreme cases and only if the working conditions are not dangerous or harmful. It would be best if you also considered that for such parents, it is necessary to equip a special place where they can feed and change the child.

Does a 4 year old post deserve a response of this nature? I also think you are missing the point this was about a "visit" to teh office not someone working with thier children in the office.

Bass900063  
#16 Posted : 21 July 2022 12:32:54(UTC)
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Bass900063

I have a Children and Young Person Policy and Risk Assessment I can send you if you would like it. It covers work experience students as well as visits from employee's children.  

Roundtuit  
#17 Posted : 21 July 2022 14:56:38(UTC)
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#18 Posted : 21 July 2022 14:56:38(UTC)
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