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CdC  
#1 Posted : 24 August 2022 09:22:28(UTC)
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CdC

We have just stopped our FLT team from transporting two oil drum pallets at the same time on the same FLT.

Each pallet's drums were shrink wrapped together, but there was nothing connecting top and bottom load. 

The team explained that they also transport IBCs in that manner, therefore using the stacking ability to carry two IBCs on one FLT at the same time. 

Struggling to find a definitive guidance on this, other than my opinion on them being unsafe loads. Any ideas?

PDarlow  
#2 Posted : 24 August 2022 09:59:40(UTC)
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PDarlow

As long as the load is within the trucks lifting capacity, load is secured (with a live load I would consider something else other than shrink wrap to secure - wratchet straps etc) although shrink wrap is widely used as a way of securing many different loads. If vision is obscured travel in reverse.

Your own risk assessment can take these and other factors into account which is suited to your workplace.

Previous accident statistics in your workplace could give an indication of there is a problem with double stacking or not - depending on how good the reporting culture is of course.

We often double stack and only have had issues if FLT operators do not follow the SSoW as touched upon above.

Check out HSG76 for guidance from HSE

HSSnail  
#3 Posted : 24 August 2022 10:03:30(UTC)
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HSSnail

Interesting i agree thought the guidance would be easy to find.

The HSE do this document on pallet safety Pallet safety PM15 (hse.gov.uk) and it talks about stability in stacking but not in transportation. and there is nothing in Warehousing and storage: A guide to health and safety HSG76 (hse.gov.uk)

Have seen metal stilages transported in two's, but they obviouley "slot" into each other, and have rigid sides to stop the load moving - struggleing to remember if i have ever seen two pallets moved together. 

Looks like it might be a case of Risk Assessment - so as long as stable - not over weight and not two high as to tip the truck might be OK.  Having said that i would be uncomfortable with trasporting oil drums on two flat pallets - sounds unstable to me.

sorry was typing at the same time as our fellow forum person

Edited by user 24 August 2022 10:05:22(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 24 August 2022 21:05:02(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: CdC Go to Quoted Post
Any ideas?

Shrink wrapped? Typically if it is not plastic or metal banding then it is stretch wrap. Shrink wrapping drums on a pallet is a very infrequent activity. Stretch wrapping is typically reserved for empty drums.

Unless you have a very uneven travel surface or vehicles capable of high speed travel you are being very over cautious. Typically the mass of drum and content on a wooden pallet carried inclined (not horizontal) on the forks has sufficient friction to secure the load during transport.

Alrernativley you can make yourself incredibly unpopular by making every load require ratchet strapping to the fork lift with all the aggravation and time consumed attaching and removing the strapping at the start and end of travel.

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 24 August 2022 21:05:02(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: CdC Go to Quoted Post
Any ideas?

Shrink wrapped? Typically if it is not plastic or metal banding then it is stretch wrap. Shrink wrapping drums on a pallet is a very infrequent activity. Stretch wrapping is typically reserved for empty drums.

Unless you have a very uneven travel surface or vehicles capable of high speed travel you are being very over cautious. Typically the mass of drum and content on a wooden pallet carried inclined (not horizontal) on the forks has sufficient friction to secure the load during transport.

Alrernativley you can make yourself incredibly unpopular by making every load require ratchet strapping to the fork lift with all the aggravation and time consumed attaching and removing the strapping at the start and end of travel.

HSSnail  
#6 Posted : 25 August 2022 08:24:18(UTC)
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HSSnail

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: CdC Go to Quoted Post
Any ideas?

Shrink wrapped? Typically if it is not plastic or metal banding then it is stretch wrap. Shrink wrapping drums on a pallet is a very infrequent activity. Stretch wrapping is typically reserved for empty drums.

Unless you have a very uneven travel surface or vehicles capable of high speed travel you are being very over cautious. Typically the mass of drum and content on a wooden pallet carried inclined (not horizontal) on the forks has sufficient friction to secure the load during transport.

Round i agree for a single pallet - but for one pallet ontop of another - would that not make the top pallet very unstable, or do you feel the weight of a full barrel would be sufficient to hold it in place?


Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 25 August 2022 09:09:15(UTC)
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Roundtuit

At site it is four barrels on a pallet.

Delivered full they have a plastic strap around the middle of the load horizontally of each pallet.

Clearing empties they are stretch wrapped four to a pallet and loaded two pallets high at a time.

Our RA dictated greater employee risk securing and releasing the load at height - the loading, off-loading and transport routes being cleared of pedestrians during vehicle movements.

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HSSnail on 25/08/2022(UTC), HSSnail on 25/08/2022(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 25 August 2022 09:09:15(UTC)
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Roundtuit

At site it is four barrels on a pallet.

Delivered full they have a plastic strap around the middle of the load horizontally of each pallet.

Clearing empties they are stretch wrapped four to a pallet and loaded two pallets high at a time.

Our RA dictated greater employee risk securing and releasing the load at height - the loading, off-loading and transport routes being cleared of pedestrians during vehicle movements.

thanks 2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
HSSnail on 25/08/2022(UTC), HSSnail on 25/08/2022(UTC)
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