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Tangoswift  
#1 Posted : 08 September 2022 08:46:26(UTC)
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Tangoswift

Morning all,

I am looking for some guidance. The company I work for has brought equipment from a company that has liquidated, which includes machinery that was built specifically for that company in house. My guess is that they were not planning on selling this machinery at the time it was built. 

I can't see a CE / UKCA mark on these machines (apart from on the motors). 

My question is, will we need to get a CE / UKCA affixed onto these machines now that we are the owners?

Any help will be appreciated!

Kate  
#2 Posted : 08 September 2022 12:34:59(UTC)
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Kate

The short answer is yes.

I imagine someone will be along with a longer answer later.

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Tangoswift on 12/09/2022(UTC)
Ian Bell2  
#3 Posted : 08 September 2022 19:43:04(UTC)
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Ian Bell2

Generally as already stated the answer is yes. although there are some exceptions. Refer to the various annexes to the Supply of Machinery Regs.

No matter that the machinery is self built, you are still considered to be placing the machine on the market.

Long gone are the days when you could knock something up in the factory maintenance workshop.

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Tangoswift on 12/09/2022(UTC)
Evans38004  
#4 Posted : 09 September 2022 06:41:58(UTC)
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Evans38004

First & foremost - I agree with the other two responders that legally, all plant &equipment must be deemed safe for use and the CE marking / declaration of conformity etc. should be the minimum requirement. However, as someone who has been around fora long time, I wonder what other H&S professionals have encountered.

My guess is that many companies that purchase new installations will have CE marked equipment & all the paperwork, but a big percentage will not have maintained those, especially if 2nd hand equipment are installed and then modified thereafter to make it work correctly / more efficiently. 

I'd say that generally compliance of this is less than 75% - what do others think?

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Tangoswift on 12/09/2022(UTC)
godscrasher  
#5 Posted : 30 September 2022 09:00:52(UTC)
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godscrasher

Yes it must be CE/UKCA marked and conform to the relevant standards, more specifically Type A and B standards and if it falls into the category of Type C, then that would be more specific for the machinery. Someone has mentioned certain annexes of the regs and for example this would include the likes of machinery for experiments.

The most important part is PUWER. Conduct a PUWER assessment on the machine and the installation after it complies with certain standards above.

GFRSRachel  
#6 Posted : 03 October 2022 14:29:52(UTC)
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GFRSRachel

Hi. fully agree with the other replies, but thought I would signpost the following UK government websites that might also help.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-ukca-marking   information on UKCA marks, (for sale in the UK)

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/ce-marking#products-that-need-ce-marking  information on CE marking

Both have information on the standards that need to be meet and the UKCA one has information on how  manufacturers can claim ‘presumption of conformity’ with the corresponding essential requirements that apply to their product.

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