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SammyK  
#1 Posted : 10 October 2022 18:40:36(UTC)
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SammyK

Good evening, 

without giving too many details away. Claim currently going through the courts that happened in 2019- 3 year time frame has expired- claimiant submitted court paperwork a few months after time period and it's going through? I always thought there was a 3 year timeframe from date of accident? 

thought please. thank you! Sammy 

chris42  
#2 Posted : 10 October 2022 19:19:16(UTC)
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chris42

Not quite. The date of knowledge can be used as the start of your 3-year time limit which may or may not be directly after an accident / incident. Its the date you discovered that the harm you suffered, which could be days, weeks months even years later.

The limitation act

SammyK  
#3 Posted : 10 October 2022 19:30:44(UTC)
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SammyK

Thank you Chris. In this case the person ended up in hospital very injured on the date of accident. Surely 3 years will still stand with this? Not more. Thanks Sammy
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 10 October 2022 20:12:23(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Did they fully rehabilitate in the intervening three years or had several years passed before a consultant specialist finally said.... at which point you end up with a claim for the personal impact.

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 10 October 2022 20:12:23(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Did they fully rehabilitate in the intervening three years or had several years passed before a consultant specialist finally said.... at which point you end up with a claim for the personal impact.

SammyK  
#6 Posted : 10 October 2022 20:14:45(UTC)
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SammyK

Thank you, as far as we are aware. They’ve made a full recovery and have been back at work for years.
I’m really stumped as to how this is going through the courts!
HSSnail  
#7 Posted : 11 October 2022 07:14:36(UTC)
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HSSnail

The court can make an exception to waiver the 3 year's and as already been said its 3 years from knowing teh extent of the "injury" caused not 3 years from the date of the injury - so potentialy if they have developed symptoms which can be attributed to the injury after those 3 years they could still pursue the case. Sorry i dont think i am explaining that very well - hope it makes sence.

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Pirellipete  
#8 Posted : 11 October 2022 08:17:54(UTC)
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Pirellipete

Originally Posted by: SammyK Go to Quoted Post
Thank you, as far as we are aware. They’ve made a full recovery and have been back at work for years.
I’m really stumped as to how this is going through the courts!

...................Because of all the TV and Radio ads by Ambulance Chasing legal company's who have a freephone number and, after reviewing the info given by the 'claimant' will offer to take the case on at no cost to the claimant and let them keep 100% of any award.

The company obviously feel there is a good chance of being successful or they wouldn't have taken it on.

probably based on the claimed pain and sufferring the claimant has had since the, and as a result of the accident, the impact on him and his family and a reduced quality of life.....  etc etc

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peter gotch on 11/10/2022(UTC)
Accidentia  
#9 Posted : 13 October 2022 05:49:32(UTC)
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Accidentia

This claim may be going through the court process but its unlikely to be thrown out until there's at least a case management conference and if the claimant's solicitors intend to ask the court to exercise its discretion over limitation, perhaps not until there is a trial. I'm sure the insurers/ solicitors on your behalf will argue the limitation point. Cases do reach trial and are thrown out due to the late service of the claim form or particulars
Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 13 October 2022 08:34:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Ultimately the insurers choose to defend or pay any claim.

Roundtuit  
#11 Posted : 13 October 2022 08:34:13(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Ultimately the insurers choose to defend or pay any claim.

Holliday42333  
#12 Posted : 13 October 2022 13:14:11(UTC)
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Holliday42333

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Ultimately the insurers choose to defend or pay any claim.


.... and its almost always a financial rather than legal decision
Accidentia  
#13 Posted : 13 October 2022 14:50:03(UTC)
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Accidentia

...................Because of all the TV and Radio ads by Ambulance Chasing legal company's



Let's dismiss this myth that solicitors are out to manufacture unworthy claims.


According to the TUC's Risks journal of today's date:


Following Freedom of Information Act requests in 2012 and 2022, the figures obtained by the workers’ safety journal Hazards show that there were 87,655 claims registered with the Compensation Recovery Unit (CRU) in 2011/12, but this had fallen to 44,435 in 2021/22 – a 50 per cent drop.


According to https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/


1.7 million working people suffering from a work-related illness, of which 822,000 workers suffering work-related stress, depression or anxiety. 470,000 workers suffering from a work-related musculoskeletal disorder. 93,000 workers suffering from COVID-19 which they believe may have been from exposure to coronavirus at work. 2,544 mesothelioma deaths due to past asbestos exposures (2020). 123 workers killed at work (2021/22). 441,000 working people sustained an injury at work according to the Labour Force Survey. 51,211 injuries to employees reported under RIDDOR.


It becomes clear that the reduction in claim numbers means that few people injured or made sick in the course of their work do not make a claim. Note that HSE's figures make no reference to injuries due to work-related road accidents whereas the number of claims recorded by the CRU includes all accidents to people of working age, including on the road, at home or at leisure.

antbruce001  
#14 Posted : 14 October 2022 10:15:26(UTC)
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antbruce001

Accidentia - your data is incorrect and misleading! 

The full data is available online without the need for a FOI request.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/compensation-recovery-unit-performance-data/compensation-recovery-unit-performance-data

The numbers you quote for the claims made in the 2 year bands are close to the published data but not exact. But the real inaccuracy in your post is you stating that the 87K & 43K cover all claims. They simply do not. These numbers relate to claims against an employer only. In 2021/22 there were a total of 505,000 claims registered, of which only 43,769 were against an employer. Also, not being in the insurance business or the legal profession (which I suspect you are) I have no real way to judge how this CRU data relates to actual claims made, i.e what % of total claims have an associated CRU claim raised against them. What about claims where hospital treatment was not required? What about longer term medical conditions like Noise Induced Hearing loss or other medical conditions? 

Also, the big drop in claims against the 'employer' was in the last 2 years, so is more likely to be a result of COVID, not better H&S compliance, or a reduction in people's tendency to make a justified claim following an injury or to raise 'questionable claims'.

At no point has anybody (including the originator) made any statement as to whether or not the claim is actually justified. The discussion is about the potential (mis)application of the Limitation Act to an actual claim.

"Let's dismiss this myth that solicitors are out to manufacture unworthy claims.". Nobody has said that! But since you raised it...

Trying to say the UK doesn't have a claim culture, which is driven by the legal profession goes against most people's actual, personal experience of being in the real world. 

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Edited by user 14 October 2022 10:48:16(UTC)  | Reason: Addition's made.

A Kurdziel  
#15 Posted : 14 October 2022 11:32:43(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Time to add my bit!

There is a  perception that the UK has a claims culture, and this has been fed by stories in the media since the end of the 1980’s. This is despite the fact that a lot of the evidence shows a decrease in claims. Back before the  1990’s if you were injured at work or suffered an industrial illness you could go to a solicitor and get free advice under the Legal Aid scheme. The government  eventually stopped people being able to get Legal Aid for personal injury claims and substituted a Conditional Fee system, also known as ‘no win, no fee’. At the same time they also permitted law firms to advertise their services. Before then, law firms were even  restricted to the size of type they used in the Yellow Pages(remember them?) and so seeing ads for lawyers was a shock to the system for some and provoked a fit of the vapours for others. Suddenly these ‘ambulance chasers’  had a high profile.

 

Since the there has been attempts to make it more difficult for ordinary people to go to law, often supported  by lobbyists for various interest groups. There seems to be a feeling amongst some people that the law is too good for the likes of us. And the government has suggested that  it would like to stop people using Legal Aid for things like Judicial reviews of government  backed decisions.

Back in 2004 Better Regulation Commission (BRC) wrote report that  concluded that there was no compensation culture in the UK and that  the myth of the compensation culture was largely perpetuated by the media. Lord Dyson, the Master of  Rolls,  in England and Wales, has dismissed the existence of a compensation culture in the UK as a false perception and a "media-created myth.

 

Yes, we have all been involved in weird cases. In one that passed over my desk an employee was paid compensation, despite the fact that the medical report concluded that their condition, which they were claiming for,  was NOT work related. The employer just paid out and as a colleague said “ they need the money to finish their new extension” But these cases are balanced out by cases where the people fully deserve their “compo” and by cases where people decide not to claim, when they could. Any such system is open to abuse but just because of a small proportion of bad cases is no reason to damn the whole system and take away people’s chance to get a measure of justice.   

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Pirellipete  
#16 Posted : 19 October 2022 07:54:27(UTC)
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Pirellipete

Originally Posted by: Accidentia Go to Quoted Post
...................Because of all the TV and Radio ads by Ambulance Chasing legal company's
Let's dismiss this myth that solicitors are out to manufacture unworthy claims.

I did qualify my comment with the statement that if the solicitors feel you have a good claim they will take it on......

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