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lisar  
#1 Posted : 03 November 2022 17:59:30(UTC)
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lisar

What is the latest compliant legislation concerning the correct RPE to be worn when spraying all products? 

I believe I know what its is as I don’t believe its changed but it was to do with an article in the Bodyshop magazine which I believe to be mis-leading information.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Kate  
#2 Posted : 03 November 2022 20:10:42(UTC)
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Kate

What do you mean by "compliant legislation"?

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 03 November 2022 20:45:11(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: lisar Go to Quoted Post
spraying all products? Bodyshop magazine

No such thing as one size fits "all sprayed products" so clarity is a must - do you mean isocyanate based motor vehicle paints, wall & ceiling plaster, emulsion paints, fence treatments, spray tans......

Bodyshop magazine - a specialist trade magazine or the literature of a major high street retailer?

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 03 November 2022 20:45:11(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Originally Posted by: lisar Go to Quoted Post
spraying all products? Bodyshop magazine

No such thing as one size fits "all sprayed products" so clarity is a must - do you mean isocyanate based motor vehicle paints, wall & ceiling plaster, emulsion paints, fence treatments, spray tans......

Bodyshop magazine - a specialist trade magazine or the literature of a major high street retailer?

HSSnail  
#5 Posted : 04 November 2022 08:05:37(UTC)
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HSSnail

Its still covered by COSHH and your Risk assessment - i was part of a HSE/LA inspection campaign looking at motor vehicle repair about 15 years ago - even then we were finding a lot of  people were switching to water based products moving away from isocyanate so RPE was being reduced,

A Kurdziel  
#6 Posted : 04 November 2022 10:10:22(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Did this article describe what the “wrong” RPE was like and why the “correct”  RPE was better ?

As people have said the HSE and legalisation does not specify what the “correct” RPE might be in a given situation. The COSHH regulations require that anybody who uses hazardous substances (at work) assess the risk that those substances pose to those employees in that work situation. That is why the HSE cannot produce  anything prescriptive. Once you have your risk assessment then you select the best controls to manage that risk, starting with eliminating or substituting the hazardous substances working through collective measures like LEV   and finally considering RPE. What ever controls you choose (note you choose the controls for your risk), they must actually work, users must be made to use them, are trained to us them and they wear them properly.

It's this last bit that the HSE has  been going on about. Firstly people are not applying the hierarchy of controls properly and going straight to RPE  and secondly not getting appropriate RPE or face fit testing it or training staff to use it or maintain  it properly. The HSE have  decided that this needs addressing but there is no new legislation.  

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lisar on 05/11/2022(UTC)
peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 04 November 2022 13:47:45(UTC)
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peter gotch

lisar, can you identify the author of this "article" or was it alongside an ad from an RPE supplier?

Seen similar in the specialist H&S press on numerous occasions over the decades!

Edited by user 04 November 2022 13:49:29(UTC)  | Reason: Touch tyoing was fine but the spelin went AWOL cos typed and instead of an

A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 04 November 2022 15:54:21(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

This also links to something that seems to always turn up on this forum-someone, who is usually trying to sell you something says: “there is a new H&S law, and you need to buy this to comply”. Apart from obtaining money under false pretences it encourages the all too common belief that “they” (HSE?)  create new H&S laws at random with the sole aim of disrupting  the smooth operations of business. I have just checked the HSE website and the last substantive change to H&S laws was the amendment to the PPE regs extending the requirement to provide free PPE to all workers rather than just employees. I think there was two year lead into that change. Most of the “new” H&S regs have been amendments to long established  laws. We are not drowning in red tape, and we need to call out those people claim we are.

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peter gotch on 04/11/2022(UTC)
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