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Shelley55  
#1 Posted : 01 November 2022 11:25:11(UTC)
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Shelley55

We are looking at getting a small alarm to alert other members of staff that a liquid spill has occurred. This is a rare occurence but due to the location, we need to let other staff know that it has occurred to get assitance there asap.  We have found a small alarm that would do the trick but it is 125dBa.  My question is, would that be ok to activate (probably 30 seconds to 1 minute) without the need for hearing protection for the person activating the alarm?  Thanks in advance.

PDarlow  
#2 Posted : 01 November 2022 11:33:11(UTC)
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PDarlow

Hi Shelley,

Could you please give more specific information. What is the liquid in question? Is it a hazardous substance that requires a trained operative to clean up and make the area safe or are we talking non-hazardous (aside from the potential for a slip of course)?

Why not have the call point within the area and have the sounder at the place where the assistance would come from?

Paul

antbruce001  
#3 Posted : 02 November 2022 11:44:20(UTC)
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antbruce001

Hi Shelley,

The 125 dBa is the level of sound it generates at a fixed distance (usually 1m or 3m from the unit), not the level of noise people will be exposed to. The sound level will drop off following the inverse square rule. As such, you may find that unit is not 'loud' enough to ensure all can hear it above the background noise in the area - depending on where it is placed within the area and the distance requiring coverage. 

Also, as it's an alarm the 'normal' rules about protecting people's hearing don't apply the same. If the sound level for unit really was a problem then the manufacturer wouldn't have set it so high in the first place. Who would make an alarm that was so loud nobody could use it safely?

Hope it helps.

Tony.

Edited by user 02 November 2022 11:45:51(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

RVThompson  
#4 Posted : 02 November 2022 12:18:29(UTC)
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RVThompson

Does it have to be that loud, and is noise the only option?

You could have a flashing beacon, or even a spoken message.

I’m no expert on alarms, but the choice on the interweb seems pretty good.

Shelley55  
#5 Posted : 09 November 2022 10:27:27(UTC)
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Shelley55

Hi all, thanks for your responses.  The liquid is non-hazardous but gets quite sticky (food grade) and we are trying to get everyone to take some responsibility for assisting with clean-up if needed (we have had two instances where either no assitance was offered but other staff were aware or other staff were not aware of what had happened).  We have considered a call point (and there is one nearby) but wanted something that was very different from the fire alarm.  There is a wall between the nearest work area and where any spill could potentially happen and so whilst a flashing beacon may work long-term, we were ideally looking for a short-term solution that we could put in place quickly to see how that goes.

Once again, thank you for your answers - they are very useful.

PDarlow  
#6 Posted : 09 November 2022 15:04:13(UTC)
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PDarlow

Hi Shelley,

I work for animal feed producers so I'm assuming the sticky stuff is something along the lines of molasses or soya oil, to name but a few. My suggestion would be to identify how / why the spills occur and try to mitigate that where possible. Empower all staff to clean up (ensuring the correct spill kits are available in the area) or at the very least to immediatley report to whichever department undertakes the cleaning. This is where other managers come in to the fray to inform and instruct their teams (good luck) of any new procedures that are put in place.

We have alarm systems here - for fire safety, and alarms on plant and machinery to alert the operator or maintenance engineers that there is a problem. What I have suggested above is what we do. We have never considered the use of alarms for this sort of incident. Goo dluck with your endeavor.

A Kurdziel  
#7 Posted : 09 November 2022 15:31:20(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I did think that it’s a bit strange to use an alarm in this way, especially such a loud one. This makes sense for an evacuation alarm, as people a) need to alerted  that they need to evacuate and b) they will be moving away from the noise source when they evacuate. In your case though they will be moving towards the noise source. You say that it will only be on for a minute at most. Will it turn itself off automatically after that minute or will someone turn it off manually. Isn’t there a risk of the alarm  be kept on longer to get more people  to clear up the spill?

Bigmac1  
#8 Posted : 17 November 2022 16:00:57(UTC)
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Bigmac1

Calculate the LEPD, the peak isnt an issue

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