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jwg  
#1 Posted : 09 February 2023 15:05:22(UTC)
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jwg

HI, Can anyone quote, point me to the specific piece of legisation that fire drill MUST be undertaken annually? I'm struggling to find it. Yes there is plenty of information out to say they must be done annually, but I need the specfic leg/quote so it can be used as the big stick. 

Thanks in advance. 

RVThompson  
#2 Posted : 09 February 2023 15:35:27(UTC)
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RVThompson

There is mention of ‘at least annually’ in the UK Gov publication here (p116) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/14882/fsra-factories-warehouses.pdf

Are you in healthcare?

Page 125 of the FSRA for healthcare says the same.

In my experience (manufacturing), relevant third parties’ usually require annual fire drills (across all shifts).

jwg  
#3 Posted : 09 February 2023 15:46:59(UTC)
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jwg

Thanks for your information. I'm also trying to drill down to establish if the enforcement authorities can use the prescribed leg for enforcement action, for even going a month or two beyond the so called annual requirements. 

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John D C on 09/02/2023(UTC)
Messey  
#4 Posted : 09 February 2023 22:11:44(UTC)
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Messey

Article 15 of the Fire Safety Order states:

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15.—(1) The responsible person must—

(a)establish and, where necessary, give effect to appropriate procedures, including safety drills, to be followed in the event of serious and imminent danger to relevant persons;

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Note: I have highlighted 'where necessary' in bold. This obviously means there are some circumstances where fire drills are not required/necessary. Imagine a husband an wife retail local grocery store with an alcohol licence. They have a FRA, they may well have agreed a plan of who does what, but would you really expect them to carry out a drill?

Likewise, when you do conduct drills, there is no frequency dictated in the Fire Safety Order. It is best practice - especially as its mentioned in the Govt FS Guides - to conduct drills annually. Many Resp Persons assess that more frequent drills are required, say in residential homes and schools where specific high risk or vulnerable persons are present. IMHO, it would be difficult to justify a period of more than 12 months as a part of your fire safety strategy, but if for some reason the gap is extended by 2 months due to unforeseen operational or other circumstances, I really cannot see an enforcement authority making too much of a fuss. 

During covid, we missed our head office fire drill for nearly two years. Instead we provided online training and published extra guidance on our intranet. Last year, we had an office close to where 1000s of people were queuing to see HM The Queen laying in state. We delayed the fire drill as it seemed a bit crass turning out many 100s of staff into the queue area.

I would apply the same common sense if your firm had a large order and that delayed the drill by a few weeks

So to answer your question, there is no legal requirement to conduct annual drills. However, as with the best practice published in the Govt FS Guides, British standards and Approved doc B of Building Regs, you may have to justify why it was necessary to not apply those standards - especially post incident 

antbruce001  
#5 Posted : 10 February 2023 08:28:56(UTC)
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antbruce001

The requirement is usually taken as 'one fire drill in every 12 month period for all staff'. This, therefore, allows for over-running a bit past the 12 months, provided 'on average' you have one in every 12-month period. However, how can you ensure you have covered everyone in one set of fire drills? What about people on leave or working at home (in this current age of hybrid working)? This is why most fire risk assessors advise that you undertake two fire drills in any 12-month period, spaced 6 months apart (the old pre-RR(FS)O requirement). This helps to make sure most people experience a fire drill at least once a year - or it did before COVID.

Tony.

jwg  
#6 Posted : 11 February 2023 18:36:13(UTC)
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jwg

Thanks all. Yes, hybrid working has definately thrown up challenges. 

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