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JamesClifford  
#1 Posted : 16 August 2023 12:49:11(UTC)
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JamesClifford

Hi all

Following on from my post on fire doors, I have been told we are getting quotes of £900 to £1000 per door to supply and fit.  

It wasn't all that long ago that I was getting quoted £500 to £600 at most.  The thing is, in this new company I don't have direct lines to the contractors now.

The same with bulk head lights, quotes coming in at £150 per unit.

There has been a lot of change in personnel here and I wonder if our contractors are trying it on or if this is now the market rate.

If anyone has contractors beating these prices, feel free to DM me. Prefer to go with ones who are rated by peers than cold from the book.

Many thanks

firesafety101  
#2 Posted : 16 August 2023 15:39:50(UTC)
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firesafety101

I just looked online for the cost of fitting fire doors and a few sites came up.  One actually listed the costs for fitting individual items i.e. fire door, smoke strips, ironmongery, etc.  All adding up to probably a medium to high total. 

DH1962  
#3 Posted : 17 August 2023 07:40:30(UTC)
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DH1962

I am not surprised.

A lot of companies that supply this sort of stuff don'temploy them directly but use subbies when orders come in. I think the problem currently is cost and availability of competent trades people. I leave debating the causes to other forums. I know someone who needed some fire doors adjusting and easing. He went through 11 (eleven!) joiners and it took months to get the work done.

firesafety101  
#4 Posted : 17 August 2023 10:23:31(UTC)
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firesafety101

Purchasing fire doors is not a problem but finding a trained installer may be.  They have to have training in all the necessary items to use.  Even the filler needs to be fire resistant.

JamesClifford  
#5 Posted : 17 August 2023 18:10:02(UTC)
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JamesClifford

So suddenly £900 begins to seem reasonable in the current climate,.  

Think I may have to get creative over a phased install!

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 17 August 2023 22:22:14(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The recent problems with earlier certification and manufacturers having to undertake new testing has not helped with the unit cost.

Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 17 August 2023 22:22:14(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The recent problems with earlier certification and manufacturers having to undertake new testing has not helped with the unit cost.

chris42  
#8 Posted : 18 August 2023 07:47:59(UTC)
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chris42

To add to this discussion, I’m not convinced that when there is a brand-new build of a building that the fire doors and frame sets are put in by properly trained people. I have seen a number of examples where the door gaps were definitely not right so makes you wonder about the other requirements.

I think the only people that do it properly and employ a suitably trained person are those that make changes to existing buildings. Just my limited observations. Do others see the same or have we just been unlucky.

RVThompson  
#9 Posted : 18 August 2023 08:13:33(UTC)
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RVThompson

I've seen similar gaps and poor finishing too Chris.

JamesClifford  
#10 Posted : 18 August 2023 09:47:07(UTC)
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JamesClifford

I have seen refitted stores with fire doors placed on stud walls of standard chipbaord and mdf dividing shops from warehouse space, said warehouse having no roof on!  

Trying to win the argument on reccommending fire doors in my stores has been all consuming this past week but has not been helped by the cost.  

firesafety101  
#11 Posted : 18 August 2023 09:54:35(UTC)
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firesafety101

Originally Posted by: JamesClifford Go to Quoted Post

I have seen refitted stores with fire doors placed on stud walls of standard chipbaord and mdf dividing shops from warehouse space, said warehouse having no roof on!  

Trying to win the argument on reccommending fire doors in my stores has been all consuming this past week but has not been helped by the cost.  

This may be down to the Designer being unfamiliar with the fire regs.  I've argued with a designer about some thinga that IMO were wrong but to no avail.  

I've also come across perfectly fitted fire doors but no fire seperation above the doors.

thanks 1 user thanked firesafety101 for this useful post.
peter gotch on 18/08/2023(UTC)
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