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Roundtuit  
#1 Posted : 26 October 2023 10:47:27(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Until science fiction becomes reality (fully functioning mechanical exo-skeletons) the delicate human form should be protected from damage.

Back supports are not covered by the PPE Regulations so under what guise has their use been determined to be appropriate?

I would suggest you immediately bin these devices as they give a false sense of security and may actually be creating damage by impacting natural movement and muscle structure.

Get back to basics - properly assess risk and adjust the task to fit the employee including mechanical or powered aids where the load cannot be adjusted.

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A Kurdziel on 26/10/2023(UTC), peter gotch on 26/10/2023(UTC), Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC), A Kurdziel on 26/10/2023(UTC), peter gotch on 26/10/2023(UTC), Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 26 October 2023 10:47:27(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Until science fiction becomes reality (fully functioning mechanical exo-skeletons) the delicate human form should be protected from damage.

Back supports are not covered by the PPE Regulations so under what guise has their use been determined to be appropriate?

I would suggest you immediately bin these devices as they give a false sense of security and may actually be creating damage by impacting natural movement and muscle structure.

Get back to basics - properly assess risk and adjust the task to fit the employee including mechanical or powered aids where the load cannot be adjusted.

thanks 8 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
A Kurdziel on 26/10/2023(UTC), peter gotch on 26/10/2023(UTC), Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC), A Kurdziel on 26/10/2023(UTC), peter gotch on 26/10/2023(UTC), Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC)
antbruce001  
#3 Posted : 26 October 2023 10:54:12(UTC)
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antbruce001

Completely agree with Roundtuit!

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Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 26 October 2023 12:14:56(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I am struggling to imagine a manual handling task that might require someone to put themselves under so much physical strain that the use of such a device looks viable. You need to go back to basics and apply the hierarchy  of controls starting with using suitable lifting equipment , with phony PPE so far down that it should be invisible.

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peter gotch on 26/10/2023(UTC), Kate on 26/10/2023(UTC), Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC)
peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 26 October 2023 13:11:20(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Bev

Unless I am very much mistaken these back support belts and similar devices started off in North America, where there tends to be emphasis on lots of mandatory PPE (though it is difficult to actually define a back support as PPE).

By whatever indicator you wish to use, rates and socio-economic costs of accidents at work are MUCH higher in North America than in the UK and most of Europe.

So, back (excuse the pun) to basics and follow the General Principles of Prevention aka Hierarchy of Control and leave PPE at the bottom of the pile!

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Bevmistry on 26/10/2023(UTC), MikeKelly on 27/10/2023(UTC)
Wackyland  
#6 Posted : 05 April 2024 12:09:08(UTC)
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Wackyland

Looking after your posture and core strength goes a long way in avoiding back woes in the first place.  Think about it, our bodies weren't designed to hunch over desks or haul heavy equipment all day.

Wackyland  
#7 Posted : 15 April 2024 13:23:38(UTC)
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Wackyland

Originally Posted by: Wackyland Go to Quoted Post

Looking after your posture and core strength goes a long way in avoiding back woes in the first place.  Think about it, our bodies weren't designed to hunch over desks or haul heavy equipment all day.

That said, proper back support can definitely make a difference, especially during long hours or for those already battling niggling back troubles.  The key is finding the right fit and type of support for your specific needs.

I've seen some interesting options online, like those back braces that integrate with workwear [like some on https://www.fullsource.com/safety-jackets/ (not affiliated, just browsing!)]. Might be worth exploring  different options to see what clicks with your body.

Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 15 April 2024 15:38:08(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Wackyland - a hyperlink to US PPE in response to a thread about UK employment is not particularly helpful.

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 15 April 2024 15:38:08(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Wackyland - a hyperlink to US PPE in response to a thread about UK employment is not particularly helpful.

peter gotch  
#10 Posted : 15 April 2024 18:23:21(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Ronndtuit

If Wackyland was on University Challenge I guess their specialist subject might be back support.

Just two postings each on very similar topics.

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