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Lewis_H  
#1 Posted : 30 May 2023 14:21:25(UTC)
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Lewis_H

Afternoon all,

At a reccent safety talk on site, our company outlined the requirements for timber kit joiners to use M Class on tool extraction for timber cutting. Cutting involves hardwoods, boards ect for the trades who cut the materials as part of the daily duties.

Would this level of extraction be deemed neccesary in the eyes of HSE in the current climate with the focus on dust?

antbruce001  
#2 Posted : 31 May 2023 07:20:58(UTC)
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antbruce001

Lewis,

Yes. By definition, M class is designed for higher risk hazardous dusts, like hardwoods. Hardwoods are known carcinogens and therefore significantly higher risk than softwoods. 

Tony.

Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 31 May 2023 07:43:32(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The latest revision of EH40 (2020) includes comment that mixed (hardwood/softwood) dusts should be treated as hardwood dusts with an LTEL of 3mg/m3

On 17th January 2023 the Carcinogens & Mutagens Directive ammendment 2017/2398/EU reduced this LTEL to 2mg/m3.

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 31 May 2023 07:43:32(UTC)
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Roundtuit

The latest revision of EH40 (2020) includes comment that mixed (hardwood/softwood) dusts should be treated as hardwood dusts with an LTEL of 3mg/m3

On 17th January 2023 the Carcinogens & Mutagens Directive ammendment 2017/2398/EU reduced this LTEL to 2mg/m3.

peter gotch  
#5 Posted : 31 May 2023 14:57:03(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Lewis

Are you sure these timber kits are hardwood?

Quite rare in the UK to use hardwood except in top of the range stuff, where most of the cutting might quite probably be better done in factory conditions.

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 01 June 2023 10:58:17(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Obviously something in the title attracting lots of views 4K+ in two days

Roundtuit  
#7 Posted : 01 June 2023 10:58:17(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Obviously something in the title attracting lots of views 4K+ in two days

peter gotch  
#8 Posted : 01 June 2023 13:24:39(UTC)
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peter gotch

Roundtuit - well spotted.

Could be something to do with the Forums still being aligned to the old iosh.co.uk domain and hence still "Not secure".

So, the title might have been trawled by sites with dodgy names like Outdoor Sx in the City.

P

firesafety101  
#9 Posted : 02 June 2023 11:53:05(UTC)
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firesafety101

MDF has been commonly in use for flatpack units and requires protection from the formaldehyde released by electrical cutting.

Roundtuit  
#10 Posted : 25 January 2024 08:15:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

adamusa REPORTED - hyperlink

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Roundtuit  
#11 Posted : 25 January 2024 08:15:34(UTC)
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Roundtuit

adamusa REPORTED - hyperlink

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PDarlow  
#12 Posted : 25 January 2024 08:42:44(UTC)
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PDarlow

Tried reoprting #10 earlier this morning. Wouldn't allow me to do it.

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