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Mncwf1  
#1 Posted : 11 June 2024 09:53:16(UTC)
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Mncwf1

I remember once seeing a previous employer having a whole 'pack' of details re chemicals on site that, should there have been a fire, they would I guess hand to fire brigade on their arrival.

My question is; if the chemicals on site are in such small amounts 5lts or less, (MWF and associated cleaning chemicals) would the fire brigade really want safety data on each or perhaps just a 'cut down' version?

I'm proposing using the safety data and extracting just the info on fire fighting and doing a shorter, one page, type thing to cover everything.

PDarlow  
#2 Posted : 11 June 2024 10:11:35(UTC)
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PDarlow

Hi,

I would contact your local fire station and discuss with them your current circumstances and ask them what they would expect to see.

In my view, you putting together a shortened concise version of chemicals present and fire fighting measures is fine, considering you don't have large quantities and what you describe would not be considered very high risk, depending on your internal fire prevention and fire fighting measures of course.

Mncwf1  
#3 Posted : 11 June 2024 10:45:46(UTC)
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Mncwf1

Many thanks PDarlow. :-)

thunderchild  
#4 Posted : 11 June 2024 14:02:00(UTC)
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thunderchild

We have just completed this exercise, we had them visit and see what the site is about and then I have asked them waht they want as I could put a rainforrest of paperwork in the file and some of it thwy would not be interested in and possibly delay them finding what they do want.

Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 11 June 2024 14:33:57(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Coming at this from the opposite end (bulk storage) the fire brigade had no interest in a pile of safety data sheets.

They asked our tanks carried hazard warning panels - UN hazard diamond, UN Number for the product, a contact number for specialist advice and the emergency action code (digit 1 - 4 + letter P, R, S, T, W, X, Y, Z).

The fire pouch contained a site map marked with the tank locations, their panel information and surface drains.

Roundtuit  
#6 Posted : 11 June 2024 14:33:57(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Coming at this from the opposite end (bulk storage) the fire brigade had no interest in a pile of safety data sheets.

They asked our tanks carried hazard warning panels - UN hazard diamond, UN Number for the product, a contact number for specialist advice and the emergency action code (digit 1 - 4 + letter P, R, S, T, W, X, Y, Z).

The fire pouch contained a site map marked with the tank locations, their panel information and surface drains.

thunderchild  
#7 Posted : 12 June 2024 14:50:18(UTC)
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thunderchild

Originally Posted by: Roundtuit Go to Quoted Post

Coming at this from the opposite end (bulk storage) the fire brigade had no interest in a pile of safety data sheets.

They asked our tanks carried hazard warning panels - UN hazard diamond, UN Number for the product, a contact number for specialist advice and the emergency action code (digit 1 - 4 + letter P, R, S, T, W, X, Y, Z).

The fire pouch contained a site map marked with the tank locations, their panel information and surface drains.

So far this is what we have also provided (Explosives) so the full SSSI document, maps and we've added some recommended signage to some doors after there vist.

Messey  
#8 Posted : 13 June 2024 18:46:14(UTC)
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Messey

The fire service need this info to formulate a operational plan of how to deal with an emergency at YOUR premises, so it makes sense to put some effort into a workable process. They may delay dealing with a fire without the right info, which isnt good for anyone - especially your firm  In my last place of work our system.... For small quantities (<5kg or 5l) of flammable, corrosive, biohazard etc- and ALL quanities of radioactove explosives and cylinders - plus location of asbestos risks - we record:

* names of chemicals,

* the type of vessel they are in,

* the state of the chemical (gas, liquid, solid)

* their location in the building, 

* their location in the room An audit is carried out six monthly to check all details are correct on an IT database we made in house

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