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PennyLovely  
#1 Posted : 04 September 2024 15:39:05(UTC)
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PennyLovely

I am looking for any reports or papers written that can provide evidance that linking LTA to annual bonus (if the company has a LTA then the bonus will be reduced) is not conducive to a proactive safety culture.

if anyone can point me in the right direction or send a link it would be much appriciated.

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 04 September 2024 18:35:28(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You don't need research papers to inform that linking bonuses with LTA's is a bad idea.

1) there is no opportunity for the bonus recipient to directly and effectively impact LTA numbers unless it is specifically unique to their personal record

2) the possible loss of bonus would see some dubious practices

Plenty of posts on here where users are seeking to justify not reporting

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 04 September 2024 18:35:28(UTC)
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Roundtuit

You don't need research papers to inform that linking bonuses with LTA's is a bad idea.

1) there is no opportunity for the bonus recipient to directly and effectively impact LTA numbers unless it is specifically unique to their personal record

2) the possible loss of bonus would see some dubious practices

Plenty of posts on here where users are seeking to justify not reporting

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Self and Hasty  
#4 Posted : 05 September 2024 09:59:47(UTC)
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Self and Hasty

Yeah, I have this issue at my current role, and it's a company-wide metric (mistake) not site standard so I am powerless to make any changes to it.

FR1- Lost time injuries and FR3- First Aid Injuries as a performance measure and reduction target is a negative metric that can lead to: Underreporting, blame culture, resource misallocation, narrow metrics, demotivating, short-term focus, complacency, stigmatization, lacks context, focus on outcomes rather than processes and preventative controls.

-Introduce Positive Performance Indicators: Shift focus from negative outcomes to positive performance indicators such as near-miss reporting, safety training completion rates, and proactive audits. These metrics encourage reporting and engagement in safety practices.

-Develop and implement training programs that emphasize the importance of accurate injury reporting and the role it plays in improving workplace safety. Encourage a culture where safety improvements and proactive behaviors are recognized and rewarded.

-Establish a continuous feedback loop with employees to evaluate the effectiveness of current safety measures and objectives. Use this feedback to adjust EHS strategies and focus more on preventive controls and processes.

HSE's Guidance on Developing Safety Performance Indicators: HSG254:  https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/hsg254.htm

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PDarlow  
#5 Posted : 05 September 2024 10:27:00(UTC)
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PDarlow

In my experience, bonus schemes (aside from sales) are detrimental to most facets of a manufacturing and logistics business.

For example, production are the only department that can earn bonus for amount of prodcut produced. This leads to other departments, lets say transport / warehousing who become bitter - it helps perpetuate the "us vs them" mindset.

If production operatives are likely to miss the target, they try and ramp up and dismiss things like safety and other protocols (peperwork, reporting errors etc) to try and hit said target.

If they end up failing to hit target, then all manner of negative mindsets usually prevail. This is in part to becoming complacent and assuming the bonus is part of their standard wages because they are used to recieving it.

Above are just some of the issues I asscociate with linking bonuses to anything other than sales.

Not good at all in my opinion.

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chris42  
#6 Posted : 05 September 2024 15:20:18(UTC)
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chris42

Wouldn’t this presuppose that the employees are always the ones at fault and never the company. Seems a bit of an arrogant position to take by the company and obviously so wrong I would doubt there is any external study. IMHO

stevedm  
#7 Posted : 25 October 2024 08:57:27(UTC)
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stevedm

Despite the naysayers it can be done...but the culture has to be there...we linked it to leading and lagging indictors and it worked...after some significant cultural changes across the organisation...we used the Kiel centre model to start...some refences for your research:

  • Improving Safety in Oil & Gas Khdair, W. A., Shamsudin, F. M., & Subramanim, C. (2011). This study examines management practices in Iraq’s oil and gas sector, highlighting that rewards for safety behavior enhance safety performance. 

  • Safety Bonuses in Construction Sawacha, E., Naoum, S., & Fong, D. (1999). Research on construction sites indicates a high correlation between safety performance and productivity bonuses, where financial rewards motivate safer behaviours.

  • Effects of Bonus Systems on Safety Behaviours Mattson, M., Torbiörn, I., & Hellgren, J. (2014). This paper explores how staff bonus systems aligned with safety goals can balance extrinsic and intrinsic motivation, promoting safety-focused behaviours.

  • Senior Executive Incentive Plans and Safety Zhang, R. P., & Hopkins, A. (2018). Analyzing executive incentives, this study notes that bonus structures focused on safety outcomes positively influence organizational safety in construction..

  • Reward Systems in Safety and Health Management Oswald, D., Sherratt, F., & Smith, S. (2019). A case study showing that safety reward programs, if carefully managed, support safety metrics but can hinder if overly complex or misaligned with actual safety practices.

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LancBob on 25/10/2024(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 25 October 2024 15:29:34(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I have not read these  papers but looking at the titles none of them specifically state that bonuses should be linked to lower levels of  reported accidents. Instead they link bonuses to improved H&S performance as we all know there are loads of ways of measuring H&S performance,  with some ways better that others . Simply linking your bonus to reduced LTA will almost certainly lead to some people trying to cover up accidents or at least downgrade them  to some less significant.  We still get people fretting about RIDDORS and trying to find loopholes so that don’t have to report and get a blackmark.  Alternatively when looking at metrics ( and this is something that the titles of some of the papers aver to) the metrics themselves must be relevant to improving H&S. simply saying that there must be a toolbox talk every week,  can create good numbers but unless the talk relates specifically to what people actually need, it is largely irrelevant.  I am not entirely convinced that in most workplaces bonuses actually work at all but that is another matter.

  

stevedm  
#9 Posted : 26 October 2024 07:47:51(UTC)
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stevedm

 don't disgaree...at the start of our program incident rates went up...as we reported more..and were managed down by actually addressing root causes...utoptia!!.  it would be pretty short sighted to introduce a bonus linked program only looking at lagging...which is like driving your car by only looking in the rear view mirror...

My reasons for  ensuring the change was becuase I had seen an MD demand that the person who caused the LTA and his supervisor and manager be in his office the day after the event...for an interview without coffee...ever since then I vowed that any it would not happen in my sphere of influence...and an I please to say it was successful...

just an alternative view..

peter gotch  
#10 Posted : 27 October 2024 13:33:47(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi Penny

I think there is plenty of evidence of incentives leading to undesirable consequences such as underreporting particularly if the incentives use reactive indicators as the benchmark.

However, even if a more balance approach is taken so as to include consideration of leading indicators as Steve refers to, there is still a big problem with trying to directly correlate what happens in terms of Safety (and perhaps Health) and performance by managers or anyone else.

This is mostly about the common attempt to divorce H&S from everything else an organisation is doing.

Doing something to "improve" safety could overall be disbeneficial whether at societal or organisational level.

Imagine a fish processing company that notices that it has lots of accidents involving cuts to fingers and hands during filleting operations. 

That business could introduce mechanised filleting equipment and just about eliminate those cuts to fingers and hands in one simple exercise.

However, the yield of filleted fish would be likely to be reduced. So more attached to the bones to go into pet food or waste. 

So the profit margin would be severely reduced, whilst at the same time some fish filleting people would lose their jobs. OK they are no longer getting cuts at work, but the impact on THEIR health from being out of work is likely to be MORE severe.

In contrast, if any incentive system considers H&S as just one of multiple objectives it might be much less likely to influence "unintended consequences".

Would a manager get a large bonus for doubling output if that came with increased numbers of injuries or the threat of enforcement against their employer for uncontrolled pollution? Probably not in the modern era.

So, why apply a similar strategy and link bonuses to a single indicator - H&S?

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