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decimomal  
#1 Posted : 08 April 2011 15:51:40(UTC)
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decimomal

An employer plans to allow their staff a days holiday per year to volunteer for a charity, event or project of their choice. They have developed a policy that says the volunteer should check that the project or activty is covered by the appropriate EL/PL insurance and provide details of the activity, event or project, the organisation or charity concerned and the nature of the work. They are informed that they would not be covered for 'Heavy Lifting', use of power tools or extreme sports.

Other than requesting a copy of any relevant risk assessments, is there anything else that you think needs to be considered?

Ta.

David H  
#2 Posted : 08 April 2011 22:41:45(UTC)
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David H

Why would the employer want to do this and reward the staff?? Is there a benefit for the company and the employee?

We do like wise projects and reach out to local acadamies / groups etc. and encourage them

It is all publicity and / or encouraging the brighter ones to look our way and maybe focus the mind!

Nothing wrong with this in my mind - but our people are all protected by the company insurance and further rewarded with time off in lue for their efforts.

David

decimomal  
#3 Posted : 11 April 2011 08:38:15(UTC)
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decimomal

Thank you David. I am not surew that I follow your first paragraph?

Are you sure that your company insurance extends to volunteering activities outside of the workplace and off duty?
RayRapp  
#4 Posted : 11 April 2011 09:13:36(UTC)
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RayRapp

Surely, if the employee is granted an annual leave day for charity work the company have no liability? The choice of the employee's activity is their own and the risks involved are of their own volition. I fail to see why the employer would want to check anything not related to a workplace activity. Perhaps I have misunderstood the question?
decimomal  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2011 09:26:47(UTC)
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decimomal

You make an excellent and valid point Ray, and one that I had missed.

Demonstrates the value of the forum.

Ta.
grim72  
#6 Posted : 11 April 2011 10:39:34(UTC)
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grim72

There is some adive on 'volunteering' on this recent link from the HSE (see point 5 of the top ten tips for additional links you may find useful) - although specific to street parties for the upcoming day off (or should that read royal wedding) there may be some useful suggestions in there.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/news/royal-wedding/index.htm


Also see http://www.hse.gov.uk/vo...tary/when-it-applies.htm
Phil Grace  
#7 Posted : 12 April 2011 10:19:03(UTC)
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Phil Grace

Ray/Decinormal,
Speaking from the perspective of being involved in the supply of EL insurance (i.e. I work for an insurer) I can say that this is a very grey area.

Ordinarily I would say that if an employee is allowed time off - as holiday - to carry out voluntary activites then the employer's EL insurer as no interest in what that employee does. I would suggest that it is no different to someone "volunteering" on a Saturday or Sunday.

BUT - and it may be a big "but" - if the employee is granted time to carry out voluntary work during normal working hours then such activities could be regarded as being in the course of employement. And thus if injuries resulted from such work could end up being regarded as work injuries and if a claim was made it could end up as an EL claim. Hence the insurer's interest.

I would expect the majority of EL policies to provide cover for such activities..... in the same way that cover is in place for private work such as maintenance people going to do work on director's houses. And yes claims from such activities are not unknown!
Phil

RayRapp  
#8 Posted : 12 April 2011 10:52:35(UTC)
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RayRapp

Phil

Thanks for your input. The key to Decimonal's thread was providing a 'days holiday' for staff so that they can volunteer for charity work. This is obviously not the same as being allowed to carry out voluntary work during normal working hours. Hence my response which you have confirmed as being correct. I appreciate under different circumstances the employer may need to consider whether their ELI covers the activity and whether the risks need to be assessed.

Ray
Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 25 May 2023 07:16:20(UTC)
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Roundtuit

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#10 Posted : 25 May 2023 07:16:20(UTC)
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