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ivorheadache  
#1 Posted : 11 May 2012 08:03:01(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Please help. I am advising a small company regarding getting around 4 broken roof tiles replaced on a pitched roof. They will need to get a contractor to do it, but need to know the basics so as to be able to make the right choice (avoiding the cowboys). I’ve spent some time on the net this morning looking at exactly what is involved. I have concluded this is short duration work (less than 30 minutes per tile). Tools and materials less than 10kg’s.

This is a 2 storey High St premises with a pitched roof not too dissimilar to a terraced house. What I struggled to find is a definitive guide on accessing a pitched roof for short duration work. I know the contractor is likely to use leaning ladders and a roof ladder (the one that hooks over the top of the roof), but unsure whether any type of fall protection/arrest system (such as a ‘lifeline’) is required.

Has anyone carried out a risk assessment or can point me towards any guidance on pitched roof repairs. We just need to know that the contractor is fully compliant.

Thanks if anyone can help.
jde  
#2 Posted : 11 May 2012 08:42:48(UTC)
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jde

Short duration work or not, the control measures needed will be dictated by your risk assessment. You state it is in a high street. I believe their may well be quite a few people walking along pavements, so the control measures need to take into consideration not just the roofer falling, but tools / tiles. I would suggest access via a tower / scissor lift to provide edge protection for men / materials and the area around the base barriered to divert the public.
RayRapp  
#3 Posted : 11 May 2012 10:19:36(UTC)
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RayRapp

Ivor, working at height is a tricky one. There is a hierarchy for W@H but it is as clear as mud! Collective fall protection should be provided, where practicable, such scaffold with a toe board to prevent falling objects. However, for a simple job like replacing four roof tiles most roofers would use a roof ladder for access. Other equipment such as MEWPS, cherry picker, may be practical but expensive for a simple task.

Now you really have got a headache!
ivorheadache  
#4 Posted : 11 May 2012 10:30:15(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Thanks so far guys. I do get it with pedestrians in the street and will advise to barrier off at ground level. I agree a roof ladder in this case (as opposed to mewps, scaffold etc). There are other risks that I will need to take into account and I will look at them.

Agree with jde. the risk assessment will answer the questions which is why I have asked if someone has done one and give me some pointers. I guess the overriding question is does someone working off roof ladders need to wear a harness connected to a lifeline (inertia block)? If so, where would the lifeline be connected?
Ron Hunter  
#5 Posted : 11 May 2012 12:04:00(UTC)
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Ron Hunter

Your client's headache potential is much reduced by engaging a competent contractor.
Try http://www.nfrc.co.uk/
This is short duration. MEWP. scaffold etc impractical. Protecting the public is an issue, and on a busy commercial street the timing of the work can be critical. We have good daylight late evening and at early morning just now?
Splitpin  
#6 Posted : 11 May 2012 12:15:33(UTC)
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Splitpin

Ivor,

It's all about the edge protection. I would say properly edge protected you don't need a fall arrest as you won't fall. I would go tower to the eaves then ladder to the tiles (but your tower must be wide enough to provide full edge protection ie if they fall or more likely drop something it must be stopped by the tower). However you might need a license to set up a tower on a public footpath as you do for a scaffold. As Ron said get a competent contractor and let them tell you how they would do it safely.
ivorheadache  
#7 Posted : 11 May 2012 15:32:27(UTC)
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ivorheadache

Thanks guys. Lots to think about. Splitpin, you are correct. We'll get the contractor to provide a risk assessment.
peter gotch  
#8 Posted : 26 October 2022 09:26:46(UTC)
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peter gotch

Alan - that assumes that "they" are interested.

The "sticky" at the top told us that IOSH was considering how best to moderate these Forums and would tell us what would be happening when that was decided.

However, there has been no update to the "sticky" thread from IOSH for over a year. 

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HSSnail on 26/10/2022(UTC)
HSSnail  
#9 Posted : 26 October 2022 10:35:01(UTC)
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HSSnail

so after i reported an advertising link on a 10 year old thread - it looks like its been deleted but so has my comment LOL

peter gotch  
#10 Posted : 26 October 2022 11:14:12(UTC)
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peter gotch

Brian - but also Alan's contribution has gone.

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Alan Haynes on 26/10/2022(UTC)
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