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Mark-W  
#1 Posted : 09 August 2018 08:00:12(UTC)
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Mark-W

I work for a charity and we have social enterprise activities that we undertake. 1 of those activities is a bycyle workshop. It is located within a prison. I've visited it a couple of times but try not to. It's a really depressing place, but thats by the by.

I think that as we are a seperate company to the Prison service we should display a H&S poster within our workshop. It is within a locked compound within the prison.

The prison say that we shouldn't display as they have. But on the 2 visits I've made I haven't seen the poster. I've asked where it is and just told it's displayed in apublic area.

Should I insist or just let the prison machine roll on doing it's thing and not rock the boat?

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 09 August 2018 08:31:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For me it would be the Prison Staff who are at their place of employment to whom any H&S law poster would be directed not the inmates being rehabilitated by your enterprise.

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 09 August 2018 08:31:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For me it would be the Prison Staff who are at their place of employment to whom any H&S law poster would be directed not the inmates being rehabilitated by your enterprise.

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Mark-W  
#4 Posted : 09 August 2018 09:06:54(UTC)
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Mark-W

I see your point but the inmates are earning money, albeit not a lot, they receive a certificaste in bycycle repair and we have paid staff onsite.

So in my mind we are a seperate company to the prison service. Inside the compound we operate from there is also anoter company that has inmates working for them, but they are never in when I visit so can't be sure of their set up

chas  
#5 Posted : 09 August 2018 09:28:34(UTC)
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chas

No need for a poster. Why not just give them a HSE pocket card together with any other H&S related information you may provide for them?  

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/lawpocketcard.htm

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Mark-W  
#6 Posted : 09 August 2018 09:35:23(UTC)
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Mark-W

Think this is the sensible route, issue with pocket card and go from there.

Thanks to all for advice

Hsquared14  
#7 Posted : 09 August 2018 09:45:25(UTC)
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Hsquared14

Prison Industries normally display the poster in their workshops but without visiting the prison in question I wouldn't know if this was in an appropriate location. 

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hilary  
#8 Posted : 09 August 2018 11:42:50(UTC)
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hilary

It's not such a big deal just to stick a poster up in the workshop, that way you're covered whatever happens.  If you issue everyone a copy or card then you either have to have them sign for it or rely on their honesty to confirm you gave it to them. I suspect relying on honesty may not be the best idea, not that I am casting aspersions but it is a prison after all .....

Mark-W  
#9 Posted : 09 August 2018 13:07:50(UTC)
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Mark-W

Hilary

Thats the issue, the prison service or their safety rep have said that we can't display a poster in their workshop. The rep isn't the most pro active person I've ever come across and will always pass the buck and try to not make a decision.

As we are guests in their worksop I have to be very diplomatic.

A Kurdziel  
#10 Posted : 09 August 2018 13:33:35(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Who is the poster aimed at? If it is your staff then just them issue with a leaflet/card.  To be honest the poster is not a big deal anymore as there are other (and better) ways of explaining to staff what their duties are and what responsibilities employers have for them. I can’t imagine, in this day and age,  the HSE going to the trouble of prosecuting or even mentioning the fact that a poster might not be visible to staff.  They might ask how you communicate with staff but that does not have to be a poster.

It is not worth the hassle of offending your “hosts” for this issue.

PS Are they worried that the poster might be concealing something as in the Shawshank Redemption?   

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Mark-W  
#11 Posted : 09 August 2018 13:37:05(UTC)
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Mark-W

I doubt it. Building is an isolated building, if the broke through the wall they'd still be in the compound. But I like your thinking.

JamesMc85  
#12 Posted : 08 January 2019 17:18:41(UTC)
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JamesMc85

I have a situation where, new to H&S, I will need to place 20+ posters across a number of sites. I am pre-empting the question on whether it can be provided for free - is there anywhere the poster can be downloaded and printed in-house?

Roundtuit  
#13 Posted : 08 January 2019 20:17:29(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/lawposter-a2.htm

Posters cost - the same information can be downloaded and printed as a leaflet

Choice is yours buy 20+ posters or print sufficient leaflets for each employee

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Roundtuit  
#14 Posted : 08 January 2019 20:17:29(UTC)
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Roundtuit

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/books/lawposter-a2.htm

Posters cost - the same information can be downloaded and printed as a leaflet

Choice is yours buy 20+ posters or print sufficient leaflets for each employee

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