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boblewis  
#1 Posted : 26 October 2019 08:00:59(UTC)
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boblewis

I thought you all might like to see this Japanese sawmill https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fXtC_7f6tiA I was watching with heart in mouth
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RayRapp on 26/10/2019(UTC)
Messey  
#2 Posted : 26 October 2019 11:44:29(UTC)
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Messey

I cant see any problems there

After all, they are wearing gloves and a back to front baseball cap :)

Elfin Davy 09  
#3 Posted : 28 October 2019 10:38:50(UTC)
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Elfin Davy 09

It's actually one of the better ones I've seen in terms of PPE use.  In this video they appear to be wearing trainers at least, whereas more often than not, the usual form of footwear tends to be safety flip flops !

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 28 October 2019 10:51:05(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Surely the main issue is the lack of  hardwood dust extraction!

CptBeaky  
#5 Posted : 28 October 2019 10:52:53(UTC)
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CptBeaky

Surely you don't need to protect your workforce from long term illness when you don't expect them to make it past day two of training?

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webstar on 28/10/2019(UTC)
A Kurdziel  
#6 Posted : 28 October 2019 10:55:58(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Originally Posted by: CptBeaky Go to Quoted Post

Surely you don't need to protect your workforce from long term illness when you don't expect them to make it past day two of training?

What's training?

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CptBeaky on 28/10/2019(UTC)
boblewis  
#7 Posted : 28 October 2019 12:10:53(UTC)
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boblewis

Did not spot any sort of first aid arrangements but perhaps they each had a personal issue hari kari blade - they could then make right for their dishonourable action in losing a hand.
A Kurdziel  
#8 Posted : 28 October 2019 12:47:26(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Fascinating article on Seppuku (ritual Japanese suicide) at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku#Overview.

Of course based on this practice the person who should take part in the ritual is not the operative but the person signing off the risk assessment(you cannot delegate responsibility IOSH Managing Safely Module 1)  . In fact we should include this in the new IOSH competency framework-what do you think Natasha?

Originally Posted by: boblewis Go to Quoted Post
Did not spot any sort of first aid arrangements but perhaps they each had a personal issue hari kari blade - they could then make right for their dishonourable action in losing a hand.

nic168  
#9 Posted : 28 October 2019 15:07:20(UTC)
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nic168

When I did my NEBOSH, we were told that the Japanese had a different approach to worker safety than europeans, basically they were told what they should do and what they should not do in terms of safety, and generally this is followed. Very few Japanese machines had guards or cutouts fitted, many just had lines painted on that you did not cross or put body parts over.

The guy who told us this explained that when japanses manufacturers buy equipment from "outside" they have the guards , if they sell equipment back to europe then guards have to be fitted.

Apparently they have a trained and obedient workforce, so very few very few industrial accidents.

If this is true then I would love to have a chat with a Japanese safety officer or equivalent and ask how they do it.

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