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Hartman  
#1 Posted : 05 February 2020 07:11:43(UTC)
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Hartman

We have a project in 'a country' with a tricky residual design risk! 

The structure is being constructed in pre-fabricated rebar panels (10 meters by 8 meters). While most of the rebar work can be done at ground level, it leaves an inevitable portion of 'stitching' to be done at height. At some point steelfixers need to climb inside and then descend through the rebar cage, to complete the stitching rebar. 

The rebar cage itself is actually quite stable, so I have no concern about it collapsing. The main focus is on access down inside the rebar cage, and then of course rescue. If you have experience of this or any thoughts about access/rescue methodology or general advice then please share. 

Note, the strcutre is 'designed' and cannot be re-designed. 

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 05 February 2020 08:49:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Glad you qualified this is not a UK construction otherwise the immediate response would have been to get it re-designed (also take it your company cannot afford to walk away).

Could one end be left open so that stitching moves up in ever ascending layers between the panels - installation of the next level up being completed from the one below?

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 05 February 2020 08:49:26(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Glad you qualified this is not a UK construction otherwise the immediate response would have been to get it re-designed (also take it your company cannot afford to walk away).

Could one end be left open so that stitching moves up in ever ascending layers between the panels - installation of the next level up being completed from the one below?

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jmaclaughlin  
#4 Posted : 05 February 2020 10:14:11(UTC)
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jmaclaughlin

Very much depends on the design of the cage; you can get a domino effect whereby if one rib collapses during re-stitching they all do.

Working at height (access/egress to cage)

Rescue controls would be similar to confined spaces, i.e. tripod and man at top.

Weather conditions, miniscule chance of lighting strike, but still need to be part of your assessment.

Earthing  arrangements potentially high risk depending on your environment, you might need to consider a earth spike bonded to the cage, you certainly need to consider other nearby metal structures.

Hand/battery tools only.

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Hartman  
#5 Posted : 05 February 2020 13:06:17(UTC)
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Hartman

Thanks for both your answers. 

True, it's not in the UK, another part of the world where the status quo is very different. 

You points about "leaving one end open" and risk of "electorcution", definately topics that need to be looked at in more detail. 

Resuce is, I agree, similar to a confined space. Thanks too for this point. 

Sweep  
#6 Posted : 05 February 2020 16:40:49(UTC)
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Sweep

I have seen rebar cage collapse first hand (concertina within a shaft like dominoes).  One of the main issues is that the inherent stability of the cage is in the finished state, not the temporary (unfinished) state.  Temp Works designs rarely consider supporting the rebar structure during construction.  Previously within our organisation this was managed by the construction team in an ad hoc way dependent on their experience.  Although you suggest no re-design is possible, it would be advisable to ask the design team to indicate how temporary supports can be factored into the design.   

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