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Kate  
#1 Posted : 29 February 2020 17:13:36(UTC)
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Kate

I don't see how it could be an infringement of anyone's rights.  Your client has implicitly signed up to this in their contract with the auditing organisation, and you have no contract with the auditing organisation, as your contract is solely with your client.

However I am baffled as to how an effective audit can be performed in the absence of the 'competent person'.

By the way, I am an employee, and I most certainly do challenge auditors about their interpretation, especially when they say X is a legal requirement, and I know it's not.  I see this as part of my job. Furthermore, it is part of the job of the auditor to respond to such challenges and either back them up or back down.  In my experience they back down :-)

Perhaps it is the 'competent person' in general they need to keep out of the audit instead of just those who are acting on a consultancy basis.

Do I guess correctly that your clients need these audits from that particular organisation and it's not a case where they could choose a different auditing organisation?

Edited by user 29 February 2020 17:14:54(UTC)  | Reason: "organiation" isn't a word

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 29 February 2020 19:08:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

If the certification is actually required rather than a nice to have and there is a sole provider setting the rules then sorry they have carte blanche to operate as they wish. If it is a widely required certificate there are typically other providers it is just a case of finding them. If their auditors are getting things seriously wrong then your client needs to be discussing this within their industry or sector.
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 29 February 2020 19:08:10(UTC)
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Roundtuit

If the certification is actually required rather than a nice to have and there is a sole provider setting the rules then sorry they have carte blanche to operate as they wish. If it is a widely required certificate there are typically other providers it is just a case of finding them. If their auditors are getting things seriously wrong then your client needs to be discussing this within their industry or sector.
Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 29 February 2020 19:50:18(UTC)
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Roundtuit

What is worse than a consultant? A consultant that removes their post because they realise what a foolish question they posed in the first place. Thought the forum was meant to prevent deletion/editing of any post that had received a reply.
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Kate on 01/03/2020(UTC), Kate on 01/03/2020(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#5 Posted : 29 February 2020 19:50:18(UTC)
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Roundtuit

What is worse than a consultant? A consultant that removes their post because they realise what a foolish question they posed in the first place. Thought the forum was meant to prevent deletion/editing of any post that had received a reply.
thanks 2 users thanked Roundtuit for this useful post.
Kate on 01/03/2020(UTC), Kate on 01/03/2020(UTC)
Kate  
#6 Posted : 01 March 2020 07:29:05(UTC)
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Kate

It must be baffling for those who come to the thread after the deletion to see such a random, irrelevant, subjectless series of ramblings in relation to nothing at all as what is now #1 looks.

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A Kurdziel on 02/03/2020(UTC), Dazzling Puddock on 03/03/2020(UTC)
SNS  
#7 Posted : 01 March 2020 11:56:00(UTC)
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SNS

Maybe use 'quote' so that the original remains visible in replies would minimise this kind of truncation.

Roundtuit  
#8 Posted : 01 March 2020 13:52:47(UTC)
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Roundtuit

I find quotes tend to end up like TV programmes where you get a synopsis of what's happened before and after every ad break.

The missing OP read to me as a consultant engaged by a client to be their competent H&S person perceived they had a legal right to be present at any and all meetings. A certification provider (of what was not specified so whether H&S has any relevance was indeterminate) decided externals were not welcome to be present at their audits of said client.

Roundtuit  
#9 Posted : 01 March 2020 13:52:47(UTC)
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Roundtuit

I find quotes tend to end up like TV programmes where you get a synopsis of what's happened before and after every ad break.

The missing OP read to me as a consultant engaged by a client to be their competent H&S person perceived they had a legal right to be present at any and all meetings. A certification provider (of what was not specified so whether H&S has any relevance was indeterminate) decided externals were not welcome to be present at their audits of said client.

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