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Davidfilce  
#1 Posted : 20 April 2020 08:07:41(UTC)
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Davidfilce

With virtually all RPE (dust masks) heading for the NHS and Care Services, are we not potentially building a problem for indusrty in general as we seek to exit the current UK lockdown?

There are areas of inductry such as engineering, construction and agriculture that are heavily reliant on FFP2 and 3 RPE to protect their workers from dusts and similar emissions. The issue is, that as the Government releases us us from the lock down, we can use social distancing to minimise person to person transmission of the virus, but not the exposure to harmful substances

A Kurdziel  
#2 Posted : 20 April 2020 08:29:04(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Perhaps we are over reliant on RPE. If we reviewed our COSHH assessments we might find that if we apply the hierarchy of controls properly we will find that we don’t need to use some much RPE.

The simple fact is that much of our RPE comes from China and of course they were hit first by the outbreak and they have (not surprisingly) taken first dibs on anything that is being produced. If anything comes into this country then the health sector will take priority.

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Bigmac1 on 20/04/2020(UTC)
Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 20 April 2020 08:29:48(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Not only will supply be a problem but the efficacy of materials being purchased.

On the EU reporting system last week Belgium identified masks whose measured performance was up to less than 50% of the standard requirement

https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/alerts/?event=main.immediatlyPublishedNotifications

Roundtuit  
#4 Posted : 20 April 2020 08:29:48(UTC)
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Roundtuit

Not only will supply be a problem but the efficacy of materials being purchased.

On the EU reporting system last week Belgium identified masks whose measured performance was up to less than 50% of the standard requirement

https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/alerts/?event=main.immediatlyPublishedNotifications

Bigmac1  
#5 Posted : 20 April 2020 09:38:32(UTC)
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Bigmac1

It certainly is going to be a challenge. I think companies need to plan and get purchase orders in, the Care sector will need them but the need will lessen as the number of cases deplete.

I agree with A Kurdziel. Now may be the chance we as safety professionals have been waiting for, employers may have to "DO" Health and Safety properly going forward, with our help of course.

chris.packham  
#6 Posted : 20 April 2020 20:50:54(UTC)
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chris.packham

Let's keep in mind that from a regulatory (and practical) point of view, particularly for chemical and biological hazards (COSHH) protection by PPE is a last resort (see PPE regulations). With certain exceptions we should only rely on PPE when we have investigated and, where practical, implemented technical and organisational measures to adequate control exposure. Our aim should be to control the  process rather than the person. All PPE fails to danger, as we have seen in the COVID-19 situation, whereas with technical/engineering controls we can often make these fail-to-safe. 

How often do I see FFP3 masks being worn to protect against dust that is a skin sensitiser? What about the rest of the face and head, areas where skin is particularly sensitive?

My 'favourite'(??) area of PPE is the provision of gloves for chemical protection. All too often a proper examination indicates that the employer, and wearer, are not getting the level of protection they imagine. Relying on manufacturers' published performance data is a route to failure as these frequently do not match what will be obtained in practice. Even the EN standard for permeation testing is flawed as it tests gloves at the wrong temperature. So how does one decide which glove and for how long it will protect the wearer? How many glove users are adequately trained on how to remove chemical protective PPE? How many contaminate their hands through contact with the contaminated external surface of the PPE? In one study, thout training it was 100%!

Bigmac1  
#7 Posted : 21 April 2020 09:19:15(UTC)
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Bigmac1

I just wonder, in this new world where employers may insist on wearing tight fitting RPE that we will see the number of improvement notices increasing. Will a shop worker or bus driver be treated more leniently than than a construction worker. Or will construction still be the main focus of regulators for an easy buck?

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