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Would vinyl floor welding require at hot-works permit ? We are being told from a new client after working with many others over the past 7 years, that this activity requires a hotworks permit. No naked flames are used and there is no contact with anything except the floor to be welded. The welding rod is electricaly heated so as to melt the plastic jointing material.
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An electric welding iron would not fit what most people would consider to be hotworks HOWEVER it is a source of heat that could potentially be left unattended so it would make sense to have some controls around its use. Perhaps your client has been reading this piece of HSE information: https://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/safetytopics/processfire.htm
all hot work generating heat, sparks or flame can cause a fire. Precautions include:
- clearing the area of combustible materials;
- suitable fire extinguishers; and
- maintaining a careful watch throughout the work.
- a permit to work (PTW) system can help manage the risk on larger projects.
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An electric welding iron would not fit what most people would consider to be hotworks HOWEVER it is a source of heat that could potentially be left unattended so it would make sense to have some controls around its use. Perhaps your client has been reading this piece of HSE information: https://www.hse.gov.uk/construction/safetytopics/processfire.htm
all hot work generating heat, sparks or flame can cause a fire. Precautions include:
- clearing the area of combustible materials;
- suitable fire extinguishers; and
- maintaining a careful watch throughout the work.
- a permit to work (PTW) system can help manage the risk on larger projects.
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sounds as if your client has no idea about work permits. Ask them what they want included. They have to be able to share and agree with you what the perscieved hazards are and what the controls should be.
We had some hot works done on a flat roof in our building - and these did use a flame gun. We agreed the contractor would have someone on watch in the room below (even though we have an automatic fire detection system) until 30 mins after the work was completed - and the permit was issued and signed by our facilities manager - not the contractor.
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sorry but if I have a £ for every time someone has said we have do it the same way for the past 7 years with no problem or nobody else has asked for that...the end is the client gets what the client wants... The work involves the potential for fire so why wouldn't it be under a permit...easier to do and comply than argue and delay the job..
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