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A Kurdziel  
#1 Posted : 02 September 2021 13:27:30(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Here is scenario for the work equipment specialists:

Somebody turns up at your place of work and brings with them some equipment from China. It doesn’t have any CE marks nor Declaration  of Conformity . This means that we can’t use as per reg 10 of PUWER.  Can we arrange for some third party to test it and confirm that it does(or does not) comply with the directives etc especially the electrical  equipment directives? Where would we find such a third party?   

Roundtuit  
#2 Posted : 02 September 2021 13:56:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For the GB market you will no longer be applying CE marking.

Whilst the government has extended its deadline for converting CE goods to UKCA until the end of 2022 this is only applicable for those CE marked goods already on the market at 31st December 2020.

The directives and harmonsied standards were transferred to UK Designated Standards on 1st January 2021 which would be assessed by a UK Conformity Assessment Body (most were the UK notified bodies for CE).

The searchable list is here

https://www.gov.uk/uk-market-conformity-assessment-bodies?

The guidance starts here

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain

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Roundtuit  
#3 Posted : 02 September 2021 13:56:00(UTC)
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Roundtuit

For the GB market you will no longer be applying CE marking.

Whilst the government has extended its deadline for converting CE goods to UKCA until the end of 2022 this is only applicable for those CE marked goods already on the market at 31st December 2020.

The directives and harmonsied standards were transferred to UK Designated Standards on 1st January 2021 which would be assessed by a UK Conformity Assessment Body (most were the UK notified bodies for CE).

The searchable list is here

https://www.gov.uk/uk-market-conformity-assessment-bodies?

The guidance starts here

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/placing-manufactured-goods-on-the-market-in-great-britain

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paul.skyrme  
#4 Posted : 02 September 2021 15:03:55(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

UKCA has been postponed for another 12 months. It can be used, but is not compulsory until 01/01/2023. A notified body is not required for CE marking anything that is not listed in Annexe IV of the legislation. I have done quite a few machines outside Annexe IV for clients.
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A Kurdziel  
#5 Posted : 02 September 2021 15:08:16(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

Thanks Paul

What about the Electrical Safety requirements rather than machinery?

paul.skyrme  
#6 Posted : 02 September 2021 16:41:54(UTC)
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paul.skyrme

The CE/UKCA (CE) considerations are the same for Low Voltage Directive (LVD) / Electrical Equipment Safety Regulations (EESR) as they are for the Machinery Directive (MD) / Supply of Machinery Safety Regulations.

It seemed you were looking for a notified body, which was what sent me down the MD Annexe IV route.

Everything under the LVD is self-certification, generally by compliance with the relevant product standard.

One key difference is that the Technical File (TF) must be complete and available to the authorities before the product is placed on the market. Ergo it can be produced immediately upon request.  The MD only requires that it is provided in a reasonable time from request.

Is the equipment MD or LVD?

The MD requires everything that the LVD does, and thus it is ONLY the MD that should be quoted on the declaration.

Who is the importer, as in who is placing the equipment on the market in the EU/UK?

It is the person who is placing the equipment (putting into use) who is responsible for the TF & CE marking

Tell us a little more about the equipment.

There is no scope under the LVD for a notified body to certify general electrical product, it is all voluntary an the Declaration of Conformity (DoC) is down to the OEM, they are responcsible no matter who they engage to support them, unless the support organisation is proven negligent.  That would be down to the court.

The LVD is all self-certifiation.

As I say above, more info please.

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