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David Manson  
#1 Posted : 30 November 2021 16:34:04(UTC)
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David Manson

Good afternoon everyone,

We have just upgraded much our warehouse racking to make it double-deep and plan to go live next month.

occsionally we need to rescue a "tipped" pallet at height. We  have a good system for doing this in traditional racking but have no experience of doing this in double-deep racking where the pallet may be inaccessible from a working platform.

I presume we would have to train our guys to climb the racking weraing a harness or pay a specialist to do it for us.

I would be really grateful for any advice on the best soltion.

Thank you.

peter gotch  
#2 Posted : 30 November 2021 16:45:03(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi David

What do the racking designers/installers have to say in the paperwork you received?

I would like to hope that exactly this sort of scenario was considered as part of the project, so that as example if you have order pickers that cannot reach into the double racking, there might have been access platforms incorporated instead to avoid the need for reliance for working open steelwork and the use of harnesses for fall protection.

P

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David Manson on 30/11/2021(UTC)
David Manson  
#3 Posted : 30 November 2021 16:51:28(UTC)
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David Manson

Thanks - I can' see anything in their documentation and when I asked them - they ould only tell me that other clients had had to resort to climbing the racking with slings and harnesses.

I wil refer back to them and also ask our racking inspectors if the racking requires access platforms or similar to meet SEMA standards.

A Kurdziel  
#4 Posted : 01 December 2021 09:33:14(UTC)
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A Kurdziel

I know nothing about the practicalities of racking, but the question does raise an  interesting point: are there some activities for which there is no safe system of work?  Climbing into racking  to move a pallet even with harness etc sounds risky. Perhaps the issue is that the design of the racking is fundamentally flawed?  But then who decides this? Not the manufacturers as they  seem happy enough to supply this kit. Not the users since they get better use of the available space and EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING this. The HSE could issue a circular recommending that this approach is  banned but they, in reality won’t, unless there has been a serious accident and anyway EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING this. What then? Do we cross our fingers and hope for the best?  How do we assess new approaches to work which may increase the risk of harm. Who should be taking the lead?

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David Manson on 01/12/2021(UTC)
chris42  
#5 Posted : 01 December 2021 12:45:40(UTC)
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chris42

I also admit that I know very little about racking, and don’t understand what is actually meant by “tipped” pallet? Has the pallet collapsed on one side so you can’t get the forks under, or has the items fallen off the side of the pallet? Or has the pallet been pushed in too far and fallen off the back edge a bit?

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Thanks - I can' see anything in their documentation and when I asked them - they ould only tell me that other clients had had to resort to climbing the racking with slings and harnesses.

So, have the manufacturers of the racking put suitable anchor points in for harnesses to be attached? and that may need to take shock loading? Perhaps your building has them built into it? However, I doubt it.

A kurdziel has a point.

Chris

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David Manson on 01/12/2021(UTC)
David Manson  
#6 Posted : 01 December 2021 13:14:55(UTC)
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David Manson

Thanks Chris and A. Kurdziel - 

We haven't got a tipped pallet in the double deep racking - I was talking hypothetically as we don't want to be having this conversation after it happens for real.

We have asked the installer and the independant inspectors to check compliance with SEMA standards and make recomemndations.

David

peter gotch  
#7 Posted : 01 December 2021 15:13:55(UTC)
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peter gotch

Hi David

SEMA have a free Code of Practice for the Use of Static Pallet Racking.

It's not a free immediate download, but SEMA emailed it to me today within hours of me filling in an online form so that I could get up to speed on a subject that hasn't really been on my day to day agenda for many years and I can do some CPD (without going on a course)!!

It's very blunt at 6.9:

"Personnel are not permitted to climb on racking structures."

I guess that the SEMA guidance for those doing detailed inspections is a little less strict (as people will necessarily have to get inside the structure to inspect connections etc from touching distance), but in general the application of the "general principles of protection" (as set out in Schedule 1 of the Management of Health and Safety at Work Regulations 1999) would indicate that reliance on harnesses for fall protection is inadvisable for all but very rare access.

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A Kurdziel on 01/12/2021(UTC)
John D C  
#8 Posted : 01 December 2021 15:33:32(UTC)
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John D C

I can remember back in the late 1970's having racking put in a warehouse. Soon began to get the odd tipped pallet because of the slight differences in pallet size. FLT Drivers were very good but couldn't see back of pallet. We decided in the end to have cross members fitted to reduce/eliminate the problem. And who do you think supplied the cross members - yes the racking company who supplied the racking in the first place. Does this not indicate that the racking people understood the potential problem but to reduce costs to customers only offered it when asked.
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A Kurdziel on 01/12/2021(UTC), Kate on 01/12/2021(UTC)
sjh1973  
#9 Posted : 03 December 2021 12:13:03(UTC)
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sjh1973

Hi David, in the warehose i previously worked in, we installed pallet racking shelves into the back sections of the double deep racking to prevent this happening. Obviously an additional cost but prevented any dropped rear pallets.

RVThompson  
#10 Posted : 03 December 2021 14:47:14(UTC)
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RVThompson

I concur with sjh.

The only solution to tipping pallets that I have seen are the decking boards.

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